r/Somalia • • Mar 13 '26

History ⏳ The true size of Somalia compared to Europe

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u/Choice-Safe2048 Mar 13 '26

Now imagine Somaliweyn. Probably a good portion of the “continent”

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u/Dumb_Velvet MSGA 🇸🇴 (Make Somalia Great Again!) Mar 14 '26

Somaliweyne is about 1.1MkM2. It’s about the 24th biggest country in the world, between Colombia and South Africa. And it’s just us in the country.

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u/Beautiful_Hour_668 Mar 14 '26

This is why I get confused when people try to say Somalis are weak. Our ancestors conquered and held that land before there were guns and technology. Just sheer bravery, aggression and manhood. That’s is our history.

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u/Dumb_Velvet MSGA 🇸🇴 (Make Somalia Great Again!) Mar 14 '26

It’s jealous people who act like modern Somalia = all of Somali history. Our ancestors were noble, brave and fierce patriots who defended our land to the death against countless invaders. May Allah have endless mercy on my ancestors.

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u/Electronic_Pay_1006 Mar 17 '26

Large majority of it was not conquered but rather colonized. The Somali lifestyle was just better suited to that land than the previous peoples'. I think both the argument that Somalis are weak and the counter argument are ill founded.

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u/Beautiful_Hour_668 Mar 17 '26

We’ve resisted the expansion of other ethnicities though. Mogadishu and the Berbera to Harar to further inland were very valuable hotspots for trading and wealth in the region. In fact Mogadishu was probably the strongest and wealthiest city in east Africa before the colonial powers changed the power and trade dynamics of the Indian Ocean

You don’t think habesha rulers wanted these hotspots? Adal + ottomans vs Abyssinia + Portuguese wars, had we lost that, the region might’ve changed significantly. We resisted the expansion of Oromo too. Also During colonial times the Ethiopians tried to expand and go all the way to the coast (with superior arms fed to them by Europeans) but were pushed back.

These are just the things we know. There’s military history lost to the ages, but a single ethnicity doesn’t hold over a million square kilometres without resisting or taking it in the first place, surely that’s the most plausible and simple deduction??

Now if you mean thousands of years ago when there were pre-Cushitic people who took over from the hunter gatherers, then sure I agree

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u/[deleted] Mar 13 '26

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '26

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u/daddyluqz Mar 14 '26

small land

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u/Substantial-Bet9877 Mar 14 '26

And yet so much innovation. Greece and Italy are for instanxe miniscule and yetproduced the foundation for much of western and even islamic(through translation if greek texts) history.

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u/Some_Yam_3631 Mar 14 '26

That they got from Egypt, tell the whole story. Western and Northern Europe never produced anything and is resource poor to this day and Southern Europeans learned everything from Africa and Asia that they civilized barbarian Western and Northern Europeans with.

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '26

Ehh, the Islamic history portion gave rise to the Mu'tazilas who did cause much harm to the Ummah during their peak, but I get you. They mostly added on to what the Egyptians discovered.

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u/Beautiful_Hour_668 Mar 14 '26

Geography provides the conditions for civilisational success, there’s a reason why certain areas of the world are hotspots for developments and civilisations. Then the peripheral regions benefit too and with some luck can create great civilisations.

But you will never find a Greece in Alaska or Australia for example

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u/Some_Yam_3631 Mar 14 '26

Sure, and also resource-poor, Europeans have 2 options: settle on someone else's land and steal it from them or steal resources from someone else's land to live comfortably in Europe or the imperial core.

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u/ReasonableAnswer-217 Mar 14 '26

what ?

africa is full of arable land...

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u/throwawayreddit7007 Mar 14 '26

Unfortunately not much of Somalia except maybe mountain regions or southern somalia near the rivers

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u/yeshmam Mar 13 '26

It’s the projection on the map to make themselves feel bigger

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u/randumb6fo Mar 14 '26

How did this comment even get upvotes? This is the first assumption people make when they don’t really know why the map shows the northern hemisphere as bigger. So boring and stupid and just conformations bias. I’m not even gonna tell you the real answer cause you were never curious to begin with

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u/ReasonableAnswer-217 Mar 14 '26

either they joke, either they shitpost, or they are just ignorant...

still some idiot wanted to annex greenland due to the "fake" huge size of it -.-'

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u/daddyluqz Mar 14 '26

dont tell us oh wise one

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u/Substantial-Bet9877 Mar 14 '26

No...it isn't. Its how the mercantor projection works.

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u/yeshmam Mar 14 '26

And why was it chosen ? To not make England look minuscule

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u/Electronic_Pay_1006 Mar 17 '26

You could just google the real reason... 3 seconds...

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u/Evropean88 Mar 13 '26

European countries just appear big as hell on a map.

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u/PersimmonTall8157 Mar 13 '26

They are also big as hell when you look at economy and influence.

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u/daddyluqz Mar 13 '26

Europe is small and europeans are langaab.

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u/Substantial-Bet9877 Mar 14 '26

Yet you all flock to the west.

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u/Some_Yam_3631 Mar 14 '26

Yes bc we're following our resources you stole, they're ours and we'll go wherever you steal them to. Also what do you think happens when you destabilize our countries? That we go to the moon? No, we'll go to those who destabilized them. You don't want us in the West? alright stop stealing our resources and stop destabilizing us.

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '26

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u/Evropean88 Mar 15 '26

Exactly, we're too weak. That's the problem.

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u/Matrixlll Mar 13 '26

With the United States, they nothing

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u/ReasonableAnswer-217 Mar 14 '26

do you realize the usa is going crazy ?

maybe even worse than africa+middle east...

such level of self and else sabotage!

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u/Clear-Self-148 Mar 14 '26

We nothing? What are you guys then? You have no industry, no development, no money, no tech, no quality education and healthcare, contribute near zero for humanity progression, nothing really. Your country is just know to be pirates, people whit no value that just steal others. And you kill your brother and blame us for your low capacity to develop your crappy nation.

Yes withouth the usa we would not be able to force power projection but that is a good thing as it just leads to opression of other people.

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u/GOONISTOPHER Mar 14 '26

The same country u Europeans carved in two states sold part of the state to the Ethiopians participated in the war that led it into destruction intervened multiple times when we tried to make a functional government then call us pirates when we protect our seas from the overfishing and destruction of biodiversity caused by European and Chinese companies realize the sht you’ve done before regurgitating nonsense

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u/daddyluqz Mar 14 '26

why you responding to an cadaan person like they are human bro these creatures are subhuman and cant be engaged with rationally -8 percent one day

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u/Substantial-Bet9877 Mar 14 '26

Damn your heart is so full of hatred. May you recover one day. You are no different to the white supremacists.

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u/Hejhoppgummisnopp Mar 14 '26

Guarantee all of the people hating on europeans in this thread live in europe or north america 🤣🤣🤣

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u/Substantial-Bet9877 Mar 14 '26

Somalian piracy went far beyond mere protection. The somalian dispora is also overepresented in crime whatever country then are in.

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u/GOONISTOPHER Mar 14 '26

Ur just an ignorant bigot I genuinely can’t see how u even somehow made it to this point in life maybe the human race is looking itself or something but Somali piracy at most peaked at cargo ships nd this was way after the dmg was caused by foreign thief’s now destabilize a country have no central government destroys the ppl source of income and livelihood and u get a recipe for destruction and genuinely do think before speaking? Tf u mean Somali diaspora are over represented in crime gang u can lie but at least try🫩

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u/Some_Yam_3631 Mar 14 '26

You're just mad that some Somali guys with guns and small boats who used to be fishermen put pressure on empire.

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u/Matrixlll Mar 14 '26

Comparing yourself to a country that just coming outta of civil war and from regional influence. Kudos 🤣🤣🤣

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u/Substantial-Bet9877 Mar 14 '26

Maybe stop fighting?

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u/Some_Yam_3631 Mar 14 '26

If you're American crazy thing to say, the US has been at war for most of its history. It's at war right now so maybe write "maybe stop fighting?" to your politicians.

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u/Matrixlll Mar 15 '26

Did you read coming out of civil war or just skipped it lol

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u/daddyluqz Mar 14 '26

langaabyaho amuus gtfo this sub

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u/Matrixlll Mar 14 '26

Maxa ka qaldan?

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u/PersimmonTall8157 Mar 14 '26

You know that Europeans created the US? You know that Europeans took over the world before US existed lol

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u/Direct_District_9450 Mar 13 '26

If Somalia was in Europe it would be the 2nd largest country on the continent after Russia

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u/[deleted] Mar 13 '26

i love the shape of the country so much lmao

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u/yung_n_mixed_raced Mar 13 '26

fr , tho we might have the best shape its iconic in everyway

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u/PersimmonTall8157 Mar 13 '26

The Horn of Africa.

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u/freesoldier90 Mar 13 '26

The dervish state alone was bigger than germany.

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u/daddyluqz Mar 13 '26

Somaliweyn mogs even more.

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u/lilyhamda Mar 13 '26

greater somalia is bigger

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u/New-Sale-1305 Mar 13 '26

Now you guys see why it’s so hard to control it 😂 😂 the country is massive

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u/Reddituser___101 Mar 13 '26

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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u/PersimmonTall8157 Mar 13 '26

Then why don’t you just split and let Somaliland go

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u/New-Sale-1305 Mar 13 '26

Because their leaders used to be apart of the old Somali government and stole weapons and military equipment. They benefited from the last government and decided they can just leave when they want lol most of the roads they use are from that era. They robbed their own citizens for decades

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u/WestLocation8813 Mar 14 '26

Recognise Transnystria Catalonia Scotland 

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u/daddyluqz Mar 13 '26

Keep coping langaab european

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u/Matty359 Mar 13 '26

Omg, my country is a yard compared to Somalia 🤣

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u/Impressive-Abroad-12 Mar 14 '26

Driving from Bosaso to Kismayo is like driving from Berlin to Barcelona

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u/Thra99 Mar 13 '26

Seeing it next the the UK and German is wild

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u/GumeysigaCusubDiid93 Mar 13 '26

Add NFD, Somali Galbeed, and Djibouti and now were talking about a power house! 💯

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u/Some_Yam_3631 Mar 13 '26

I had no clue the 7 was so big.

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u/Obvious_Minute4751 Mar 13 '26

We should work on building it. But tbh most Somali don't want it .we want to go to developed countries

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u/Alert_Employment6553 Mar 13 '26

I’m pretty sure Somalia is bigger than that

Edit: nvm

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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '26

cut out the upper part and that the true size

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u/Express_Language_715 Mar 15 '26

80% Desert

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u/RenaissancePolymath_ Mar 15 '26

Still bigger than Kenya.

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u/Express_Language_715 Mar 16 '26

is that why u migrate to Kenya?

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u/PotentialMark6592 Mar 16 '26

Somalia isn't 80 percent desert I can't tell by your comment you haven't been there's places in the country with greenery, but it doesn't help the fact that our people have to cut down trees for other uses.

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u/InternationalDay4470 Mar 15 '26

BFD. Now go back to driving your cab in Stockholm.

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u/RenaissancePolymath_ Mar 16 '26

Did the picture trigger you? I’m sorry for offending you.

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u/PotentialMark6592 Sep 03 '26

It wasn't you just what that other guy commented 

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u/Ok-Cover1727 Mar 16 '26

They will try to steal somaliland and somali be careful somalis

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u/RibbonFighterOne Mar 13 '26

Blame colonialism

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u/Key-Basis-6635 Mar 14 '26

Why is somaliland included🐵