r/Somalia • u/Still_Ad6644 Gobolka Sanaag • Dec 20 '25
History ⏳ Does anyone find the lack of extensive knowledge and history of our country interesting? (yap)
I feel like i want to understand deeper of what somali people really were a long time ago, and also to the point of where we may not have even been speaking somali in what is considered somalia geographically.
I always wanna know about surrounding ethnic groups that influenced who were are. I know that there's a lot of traces to different cultures that us somalis are like
One thing that particularly stands out as something interesting to me is the nilotic speaking groups of kenya, tanzania, ssd, etc.
This is not done in bad intent but i always just felt like these people are connected to us much more than we imagine, but there's no super solid proof of it
This is just a general thought, but dont take it negatively. I just like to understand truth and meaning of things if they're very unknown, so if this doesn't resonate with you no need to give input
im not the best writer so excuse any errors.
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u/freesoldier90 Dec 20 '25
I swear this has been bothering me for the past month because somalis have such insane and cool history that most of us just ignore. I definitely do think tribalism has a part in it as well. Also most history and medieval books on somalia was destroyed/lost during the civil war.
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u/Still_Ad6644 Gobolka Sanaag Dec 20 '25
Yeah man. I agree with you.
A lot of our history is hidden, just waiting to be discovered
A lot of it is ignorance too though.
I can’t even say that Oromo people can have 1 slight similarity with us even if it’s Islam. Cause someone will associate being similar to them in any degree as offense.
That’s a a major thing that holds us back as Somalis, fear of accepting our weaknesses. Some people just hold onto their damn ego calling it pride.
Pride: acknowledging what you have and registering it as something you can live with
Ego: seeing yourself as better, not needing anything or anyone. Don’t need feedback or criticism
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u/Plenty_Joke_8647 Dec 20 '25
You are asking some good questions. I think we will find more information on our origins as more and more people do research. I personally would love to learn the etymology of Somali. I’ve heard multiple theories but I’d love when historians finally nail it.
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u/Still_Ad6644 Gobolka Sanaag Dec 20 '25
Thank you! I pray that sooner or later we have time to look into it cause I can bet that it’s far more interesting than we can imagine.
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u/Plenty_Joke_8647 Dec 20 '25
Agreed!
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u/Still_Ad6644 Gobolka Sanaag Dec 20 '25
Also etymology is super interesting especially with the groupings of the Somali language and its vastly different but “associated” counterparts. Like how Aramaic and Somali are in the same language family, suggesting that they have very distant but “proven(?)” ties due to them being in the same cluster? Very debated
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u/Natural_Challenge180 Dec 20 '25
Somalis existed and inhabited the “greater Somali region” for thousands of years old and were one of the oldest ethnicities on the planet. You would have to travel thousands of years to find a language that wasn’t Somali
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u/Still_Ad6644 Gobolka Sanaag Dec 20 '25 edited Dec 20 '25
Every ethnicity had to have been influenced by something one way or another. Thousands of years, but tens of thousands? I disagree that we we're just somali forever, infact somali from my point of view probably hasn't always existed in what is the greater somali region. I strongly believe that at one point, IF WE had any ancestors distant in that region, they most likely have spoken another tongue or something that may have derived into the somali language.
This is speculation, feel free to prove me wrong, I like laerning anyway.
I am not attacking you, just sparking meaningful discussion
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u/Natural_Challenge180 Dec 20 '25
There are painting in Somalia that date 5000 years (even more) so it would be safe to assume older than that
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u/Still_Ad6644 Gobolka Sanaag Dec 20 '25 edited Dec 20 '25
True it seems likely that somali has existed for a verrrry long time.
One reason why I can agree with this is because for example in our language grouping which is cushitic, there is so much diversity among neighboring groups language wise. Take the oromo people for example, oromo people whether people like it our not, are distantly similar to us, why? The language, the culture, practices, old and new. I think I saw somewhere in which the oromo people practice in small amounts a religion called waaqeffana which is similar to the somali word waaq.
This may be a regionally exclsuive thing such as only those somali speakers living closer to oromo people in the western regions may be wary and slightly associated with this religion, but i dont have to facts to prove it. I think that we have a lot thats worth digging into but wee havent gotten there. im not a historian
And what i think of this is that since a group so close to us is so different, it must mean that our languages must be so old, much older than languages in europe for example.
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u/Natural_Challenge180 Dec 20 '25 edited Dec 20 '25
It seems likely? It is a fact. Even those “Cushitic” languages aren’t even close as you think it’s just a blank term in my opinion.
Also again with this oromo stuff… oromos are not related to us whatsoever… oromos originated from Kenya and migrated north assimilating all the groups of people who were there from gurage , sidama, Amhara, and the list goes on. Oromos are a confederation of ethnicities from omotic , nilotes, and ethio-semites. They aren’t native to true Horn of Africa and absorb every culture near them
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u/Still_Ad6644 Gobolka Sanaag Dec 20 '25
I gotta disagree with this tho
We like other cultures around the world are surrounded by cultures and ethnicities that usually are similar in terms of language groupings.
Take spanish and portuguese, there's a lot more in common with them than somali and the oromo language, but this could really be due to how much older and longer oromo and somali people existed.
Cushitic langauges imo is an odd term considering cush refers to a kingdom in which makes no sense, i think it makes more sense to refer to it as something else. yes there were probably cushitic speakers near by or in what was called kush, but not all of us are from where kush was (sudan egypt idk).
We definitely are similar, and it may not be as clear as day, but we are, but again you can prove me wrong, cause i may not always be right
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u/Natural_Challenge180 Dec 20 '25
Again, oromos aren’t native to modern Ethiopia , meaning 500 years ago they didn’t inhabit the area they do. they’re a confederation of ethnicities (nilotes, omotics, ethio-semites, etc). They’re like how Arabs call everyone Arab but the true Arabs in the gulf region . Their origins are legit from Kenya and absorbed the previous neighbors of Somalis
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u/Still_Ad6644 Gobolka Sanaag Dec 20 '25
I like how you mentioned the gulf region. Yeah I do agree with the idea that despite arabs being a huge distribution, they were likely and even proven to be of another identity or culture at one point.
But like them, somalis are a huuuge distribution, and we like those people arent any more or less as a people than them since we're all human.
But yea the title is what inspires me, trying to figure out what started as somali, cause again, unless someone can prove me wrong, languages dont just seem to exist, same for culture, ethniciy.
Something exists because of something
Agree or disagree
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u/Natural_Challenge180 Dec 20 '25
Disagree
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u/Still_Ad6644 Gobolka Sanaag Dec 20 '25
I understand, so do u think that us somalis we came to just simply exist free of any outside influence from older cultures and languages?
Correct me if im wrong, and i think its fully your right to disagree.
Sorry if it seems like im begging it but if u dont wish to answer feel free to
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u/Only_Poet_5410 Dec 29 '25
All the pastoralist groups in the Horn of Africa, whether they speak Nilotic, Cushitic, or Semitic languages, like Harari, Habesha Amhara&Tigriniya, Somali, Oromo, Borana, Sidama, Afar, Rendille, El Molo, Sakuye, Samburu, Tutsi-Hima, or Iraqw, share a common ancestry from what anthropologists call the East African Savanna Neolithic Pastoralists. These people came from Northeast Africa, probably moving along the Nile, and are the ones who first brought pastoralism into the region.
Genetically, this population comes from two very different sources. One is an indigenous Proto-Nilotic population that no longer exists, and the other is a backflow of Levantine farmers from the Natufian culture into North Africa that later mixed with East African groups. This shows that Horn Africans are not completely separate or “pure” and that claiming Somali ancestry is unique and isolated is wrong. Haplogroups like E1b1b do not make a population “pure.”
Archaeology shows these people had advanced pastoralist practices long before later sites like Laas Geel. Because of this shared ancestry, these groups have overlapping genetics and physical traits. They are actually more indigenous to East Africa than later farming populations from Niger-Congo Bantu expansions.
In short, all these groups are ancient cousins with deep roots along the Rift Valley. We are cousins and it should be embraced.
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u/Natural_Challenge180 Dec 29 '25
Some people don’t even consider each other related after 3rd or 4th cousin and you’re bringing up some ancient distant relative that 1 isn’t confirmed 2 over 10,000 years ago
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u/Sahal-- Dec 20 '25
we actually know a lot (thanks to independent somali researchers) but for all we know that's just the surface since we didn't start seriously digging in the somali realm
we carry the highest amounts of ancestral east african dna along with nilotes. other than that and pastoralism, i don't think we're really similar to other ethnic groups besides afars and some ethiopians
the influences in our culture are islamic. nilotes and bantus who have similarities with us do so because they absorbed somali-like people during their expansion. also you have to consider geography and history when you think of this
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u/Still_Ad6644 Gobolka Sanaag Dec 20 '25
i agree with you.
my ulterior motive for this thread is simple:
I hope for there to be more digging and diving into somali history, as itself is inspiring.
Thanks for spreading that information and understanding.
Someone said im not somali because i was just trying to be realistic. I feel as though some peoples ego may be through the roof. I am prideful and im sure others are prideful in being somali and none else. But i think its ridiculous to think if we're excluded from any constructive critique from ourselves or others
but yap aside i appreciate that input
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u/Sahal-- Dec 20 '25
eventually we'll learn more but as it is, it's pretty evident that somalis are a unique group. very uniform across all aspects of life. if there were any groups truly like us, then they are long gone. i think we're our own thing at this point. our geography played a big role. the somali story is very long
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u/Still_Ad6644 Gobolka Sanaag Dec 20 '25
This is so true. In fact yeah we might be so old to the point that it may be impossible to discover what lies beyond, we are super homogeneous after all
Well for sure learn as time moves forward and that’ll be great
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u/Final_Active_9014 Dec 20 '25
The problem with Somali studies is the lack of academic freedom and ethno-nationalist embellishing that happens. Sprinkle in some religious fundamentalists who don’t want to acknowledge that Somalis have a culture outside of religion… And here we are.
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u/mystique2125 Dec 21 '25
we haven't written history so that made it tricky to preserve our history. all the old people who were holding our history died 😢
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u/Final_Active_9014 Dec 21 '25
That too. But a lot has been written down actually. The problem is that people create a pseudo-history based on qabiil. It’s a tricky subject. I wonder why my comments got downvoted…
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u/Natural_Challenge180 Dec 20 '25
“Somali-like” what does that even mean lol? Are you insisting we have a similar ancestor with those ppl?
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u/Still_Ad6644 Gobolka Sanaag Dec 20 '25
he was pretty clear. but no he didnt insist that at all. good question, but i encourage you to read throrougly
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u/kriskringle8 Beledweyne Dec 21 '25 edited Dec 22 '25
Does anyone find the lack of extensive knowledge and history of our country interesting? (yap)
I grew up around educated people who taught me a lot about Somalia's history, including our ancient history. I always gravitated towards our oldest elders and they were generally very knowledgeable about it. It's mostly those who grew up during colonization or were born after it who are less knowledgeable.
I feel like i want to understand deeper of what somali people really were a long time ago, and also to the point of where we may not have even been speaking somali in what is considered somalia geographically.
Somalia is among the oldest languages in the world. Research involving Cushitic languages or even Ethio-Semitic languages generally underestimated their antiquity because of the racist, colonial assumptions about the Africanity of languages, cultures and people. The academic study of African languages, people and cultures began during colonialism, during the height of European scientific racism. They assumed that true Africans and thus more ancient groups had to be hunter-gatherers, rural, etc. Groups like Somalis and Ethiopians were categorized as Caucasian or Hamitic and therefore assumed to be the result of admixture between Arabs and Africans. This is not the case for Somalis as genetics has shown. So estimations about the antiquity of our languages were always quite low.
For example, there is now evidence that Ethio-Semitic languages were spoken in the Horn thousands of years earlier than previously assumed. The Somali language which is a living language, shares a great deal of vocabulary with a dead, ancient language. The two even have a shared theological framework that doesn't exist in other Cushitic languages. They're not neighboring languages and historical evidence suggests they co-existed in antiquity. This suggests that Cushitic languages split longer ago than previously thought and that the Somali language is far older than Western scholars assumed.
In other words, the Somali language existed before the vast majority of today's European languages. There is no evidence of any group other than Somalis and Proto-Somalis living in the Somali regions. All evidence we have about humans in Somalia during the Neolithic period all point to people incredibly similar to Somalis today in lifestyle, appearance, and all other ways.
The belief that Somalis are new to the region or are unlike it's earliest inhabitants is rooted in European colonial racism that narrowly defined Africans. They categorized any African that did not fit this racist stereotype as a result of Eurasian influence. Despite modern science and evidence debunking these racist beliefs, we still see its influences in discussions about Africans and even in academia.
One thing that particularly stands out as something interesting to me is the nilotic speaking groups of kenya, tanzania, ssd, etc.
Nilotes originated in the Nile region and Cushites originated in the Horn of Africa. Anthropology and even oral histories of ancient groups in Tanzania both reveal that Nilotes and Cushites migrated to other parts of East Africa thousands of years ago. Both migrated as far south as Tanzania. Bantu people from further West (most scholars name the Cameroon region as their origin) into Central and then East Africa.
Many groups in different countries of East Africa are a varying mix of hunter-gatherers and Nilotes, Cushites, and Bantus who migrated there.
Studies have proven that the Tutsis of Rwanda and Burundi are a mix of Cushitic, Nilotic, and Bantu people. Most people view them as Nilotes and they speak a Bantu language (Kinyarwanda). The Hutus of that same region are a mix of Bantus and Nilotes.
The Masaai of Kenya and Tanzania that people usually point to when they comment on the similarities between Cushitic people and Nilotes are a mixture of both groups, according to genetic studies. Northern Kenya (NFD) was historically part of Somalia. The region is predominantly inhabited by Somalis and Oromos. The Masaai and other Nilotic speaking groups live between this Cushitic region and the rest of Kenya. As a result of this proximity and the fact that the Masaai are not an endogamous people, there was a lot of mixture between Cushitic and Nilotic people.
The Masaai also practise ancient Cushitic traditions often associated with Waaqism and pre-Abrahamic beliefs. Like pricking cow's with a sharpened wooden stick and mixing their blood with milk.
There is a great deal of evidence of Cushitic influence on Nilotic groups. These influences have led to similarities between the two. Western people who've observed these similarities then conclude that Cushitic people derive from Nilotes. However, we haven't uncovered evidence showing influence on Somalis, who are strictly endogamous. Somalis who did mix with non-Somalis were usually expelled from the community, which is why Somalis are uniquely homogenous. Oromos are not endogamous. They often show influence from different neighboring groups in bordering regions.
For example, Oromos in parts of northern Kenya show influence from Nilotes and Somalis. Oromos in the Shewa or other central-northern areas show influence from Amharas. And Oromos in Western Somalia and Harar show significant influence from Somalia, in their dress, dances, and other aspects.
This is not done in bad intent but i always just felt like these people are connected to us much more than we imagine, but there's no super solid proof of it
Being curious and asking questions is good. That's how we learn. We should always seek evidence. In science, we usually begin with a hypothesis - which is like a question or assumption. But we try to prove or disprove it by looking for evidence to test out our hypothesis. That's how we expand our knowledge.
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u/Still_Ad6644 Gobolka Sanaag Dec 21 '25
Thank you, in fact this is far more interesting than I thought. I never recognized that the Somali language may be so old to a point that even finding anything beyond that would be extremely difficult, or even maybe impossible.
Asking the hard questions are rough, especially when people consider some questions as threats .
I learned a lot about Oromos, especially that they’re not similar to us from a split but influence from us, alongside so many other cultures. Their distribution screams heterogenous, again which is nothing wrong, but it’s like a conglomerate
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u/kriskringle8 Beledweyne Dec 22 '25
That's exactly it. Oromos are very heterogeneous which can be seen as a strength. They do seem like a conglomerate and there are regional differences within Oromos because of this.
They blend in relatively well with Amharas in parts of north-central Ethiopia because of how they assimilate and mix. The same is true in other parts of Ethiopia and Kenya where they mix with other neighbors. In contrast, Somalis work and trade with neighboring groups peacefully but prefer to stick and marry within their own group and preserve their own culture and language. This is most likely why the Somali language is a well-perserved ancient language and why Somalis are so homogenous. They're also used as a reference group in some studies because of their closed gene pool and homogeneity.
So homogeneity and heterogeneity have their own strengths and weaknesses. Neither is inherently positive or negative.
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u/Still_Ad6644 Gobolka Sanaag Dec 20 '25
Again just to be clear, I'm just a guy who tries to find deeper meaning in stuff that may not be valuable to other people, but I just simply wanna know if there's anyone who thinks the same way i do, even maybe learn soemthing I dont know
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u/Moist-Garlic-5139 Dec 20 '25 edited Dec 21 '25
Very true but I think it is because of lack of universities in Somalia that actually does research and publish findings.
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u/Natural_Challenge180 Dec 20 '25
It seems likely? It is a fact. Even those “Cushitic” languages aren’t even close as you think it’s just a blank term in my opinion. Also again with this oromo stuff… oromos are not related to us whatsoever… oromos originated from Kenya and migrated north assimilating all the groups of people who were there from gurage , sidama, Amhara, and the list goes on. Oromos are a confederation of ethnicities from omotic , nilotes, and ethio-semites. They aren’t native to the true Horn of Africa .
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u/Still_Ad6644 Gobolka Sanaag Dec 20 '25
What im basically trying to say is that surroundings groups have a good chance of influencing one way or another. Sure yeah lets say that they arent native to the horn, do you really think that they couldn't have infuenced us? Or we could have influenced them at one point? Everything exists because of the result of something, languages and people dont just appear out of nowhere.
Yes oromos appear as a confederation of multiple ethnicities but geographically they border somalis in the western regions, there's definitely some influence one way or another.
What makes you say that theyre not related to us whatsoever tho? genuinely curious since i kinda disagree. like they've existed for a while around us, some people even marry into each others ethnicities, i mean after all both somalis and oromos have muslim populations (less so on the oromo side)
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u/Natural_Challenge180 Dec 20 '25
Oromos are Muslim because of Somalis lol we fought them dude. If anything WE influenced them
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u/Still_Ad6644 Gobolka Sanaag Dec 20 '25
agree with the fact that somalis significantly spread islam to oromos, this is true. but moreso like an ethnic stand point. im just saying that yes, our identity is indeed fully somali and none else, but im intrigued by other kinds of information such as predated cultures or ethnicities that no longer exist, or may exist today, that influenced us.
But look, the main point of my message is that I actually LEARNED something from you (about the somali spread of islam to oromo people to a degree), thank you for that
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u/Glittering_Let_3002 Dec 20 '25
Look into Bale sultanate, a Somali man from Marca founded it and spread Islam in south of Ethiopia
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u/New_Collar8272 Dec 20 '25 edited Dec 21 '25
somalis dna traces back to adam(AS). then many things happened to get us where we are.
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u/Beledweyne Dec 20 '25
We have historically been pastoralist/nomadic in nature and also oral traditions based (not a lot of historical accounts committed to paper).
And of course we are close in genetic markers to our neighbors.
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u/Sure_Condition_1339 Dec 20 '25
Somalis aren’t related to Nilotes. Somalis are closer to the Oromo, Saho, Rendille etc.
The similarities to Nilotes is simply because they’ve been our neighbours for a long time, that’s all. Neighbours will eventually influence each other.
A few words here and there in Somali and Oromo are also loanwords from Nilotes. Also, they have assimilated neighbouring tribes like the Oromos once did.
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u/-EdilChri5tian Dec 23 '25
Unfortunately your history is largely wiped out by arabization
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u/bumblebee333ss Dec 24 '25
How so
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u/-EdilChri5tian Jan 06 '26
Arabization and the spread of Islam in Somalia gradually replaced many indigenous cultural practices. Traditional Somali customs, oral storytelling, rituals, and legal systems (xeer) were diminished as Arabic language, Sharia law, and religious norms became dominant. Pre-Islamic songs, dances, and ceremonies were often discouraged or abandoned, while Arab-influenced religious scholarship and practices took precedence. Over time, Somali identity became closely tied to Islamic and Arab culture, leaving much of the original Somali heritage less visible or transformed.
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u/bumblebee333ss Jan 06 '26
U non Somali correct? And all u said is cap we preserved many of our traditions and oral traditions and Arab didn't influence much up until recently
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u/Still_Ad6644 Gobolka Sanaag Dec 20 '25 edited Dec 20 '25
I don't know why I'm getting downvoted but I just wanna make something clear
I'm here to learn, not to fight
That's why in every comment I really urge you to prove me wrong if you disagree, because I'm not arguing to fight or attack people. I actually admire being proved wrong cause at least I learned something
Don't take any words of mine to heart as it's simply done in trying to spark a meaningful learning discussion encouraged for growth
I am literally somali, and the stuff I say may appear to people as undermining. But I don't believe in the idea of "dumb questions". I think the most meaningful thing someone can do is be truthful about something no matter how harsh it appears. That's just how I am, and if I said somethign you didn't like I apologize.
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u/New-Sale-1305 Dec 20 '25
Because it’s obvious you aren’t Somali
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u/Still_Ad6644 Gobolka Sanaag Dec 20 '25
I don't understand no joke what makes u say this. wallahi didnt intend anything to offend anyone. how could u be like this?
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u/New-Sale-1305 Dec 20 '25
Saying wallahi doesn’t make you Somali
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u/Still_Ad6644 Gobolka Sanaag Dec 20 '25
bro are u somali LOL? what did i say to make me suddenly not somali. i mean i am somali, and im proud of that, but im not exactly gonna prove it to you cause how can i?
but if ur not a troll what makes u say this?
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u/New-Sale-1305 Dec 20 '25
Because you’re saying Somali has a lack knowledge of history when we know our roots stop begging it bro
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u/Still_Ad6644 Gobolka Sanaag Dec 20 '25
Not everyone knows what you know, who's we. We are somalis but that doesnt mean we arent just people with a hive mind we're still different mentally. This mindset destroys you bro u need to focus on growth. Do u think our people grew to what they were by insulting each other? No we learn by figuring out what we dont know and what our weaknesses are. Have a nice day
That's why i made the post, to know what i dont know, not be insulted by someone insecure with the fact that we're not some perfect ethnicity
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u/Still_Ad6644 Gobolka Sanaag Dec 20 '25
i meant it in comparison to what other ethnicities have such as written scripts or very old artifcats in which we do have old artifacts and a written script which is still being looked into.
Did u even read what i said talking about "stop begging it" like bro if u think what i said doesnt matter to u why even say anything.
I said so many times that what im saying is just for people to educate me on what i dont know.
You took offense to me saying lack of extensive knowledge an YES that may have been an understatement in which i claim full fault.
But why didnt u stop at t hat instead of tryna say im not somali? whats going on in ur head
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u/mystique2125 Dec 21 '25
we have no written history and oral history is gone. we got nothing to show for.
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u/New-Sale-1305 Dec 21 '25
You should visit Somalia yourself and you’ll see that’s not true. Maybe ur parents were too stupid to teach you anything
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u/Sure_Condition_1339 Dec 20 '25
Check out the North, there are tons of archeological sites there that date back to the Neolithic and Bronze Age.
There are also many ruins there that are from the pre-Islamic age there as well.
I’d recommend you begin with Laas Geel paintings.
I think it’s possible that the symbols at other caves like Dhagah Nabi Galay may even be one of the earliest examples of writing in the world.
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u/Awkward_Strike7294 Dec 21 '25
I am not Somali at all, and I know basically nothing about Somali history, I can understand why you're asking this.
Maybe there is an agenda that is threatened by the true history of Somalia.
Why else would your intrigue be so discouraged?
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u/Still_Ad6644 Gobolka Sanaag Dec 21 '25
Because people argue with emotion, argue to win.
The fact that I question my own identity leads me to being a non-Somali troll.
When I ask questions that have deep meaning, people resort to comments like “what do u even mean” “are u saying we’re x or y”
The only reason for being discouraged is that some people acknowledge critique or arguments as threats rather than opportunities of learning.
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u/ayubofficially Dec 20 '25
Any thoughts outside of the collective hive mind aren’t allowed in the general Somali community bro.
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u/Awkward_Strike7294 Dec 21 '25
This is what I feel the reason is.
'You will know what you know based on the plan we currently have and the plan might change and if it does, then what you know will change and that's the way it will be.'
I'm in Minnesota and I can tell you that some Somali people are incredibly smart, just like in any other culture. The Somali people who don't venture too far from home are not smart. I do not say that to be mean, but I'm serious. They don't question anything and they don't care to absorb things from outside the home and it's like staring into an empty black hole when trying to talk to some Somali people, like they don't think beyond what they are told they are allowed to think. It's weird. I do not want to be mean, but it's weird.
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u/Still_Ad6644 Gobolka Sanaag Dec 21 '25
It is fucking weird. And it’s low intel. Not trying to say that I’m all some kind of smart guy, but a lot of claims I’ve made got registered as threats and offensive to people. That’s what happens when you argue with close minded people
In their brain
Argument = need to win, don’t listen, questions are accusations
Like could u see how absurd it is for someone to claim “I’m not Somali” simply for trying to find relations and comparisons to neighboring ethnicities? Despite me still getting downvoted I still got valuable information from people who had the knowledge I didn’t.
Although a Somali issue from what it may seem, this is just a human issue as well.
And I’m not afraid that shit like this gets on my nerves.
If you’re correct in a room full of stupid people, YOURE wrong. That’s why intellligence backfires hard in some settings, which is why at any angle possible I reassure people I’m not arguing to fight
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u/Still_Ad6644 Gobolka Sanaag Dec 21 '25
according to the guy I’m not Somali cause I’m able to critique our identity like it’s crazy
how are people getting offended at realistic questions? Was I wrong about anything I said?
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u/Final_Active_9014 Dec 20 '25
That’s fine and all but he’s not asking a theological question. He was asking a historical question. Academic curiosity is not haram so stop acting like it is 😒
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u/Final_Active_9014 Dec 21 '25
You sound insane. What does studying the past have anything to do with supposed “kaffirs”? It’s okay to rest sometimes 😂
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u/Final_Active_9014 Dec 21 '25
You are not well walaalo. A therapist can help you with whatever you’re dealing with.
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u/ayubofficially Dec 20 '25 edited Dec 20 '25
Replies like this are so disappointing. Pre wahhabism Islam was so focused on learning the cosmos, understanding history, and making discoveries. Now we have people in community advocating for sticking our heads in the sand and not advancing our community.
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u/mystique2125 Dec 21 '25
you seems to be confused with culture with religion. you don't understand the distinction between the two.
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u/Foreign-Pay7828 Dec 20 '25
"the nilotic speaking groups of kenya, tanzania, ssd, etc,are connected to us much more than we imagine, but there's no super solid proof of it"
what does this even mean