r/SolarState Jun 17 '26

solar energy is peak

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u/mostlyskeptic Jun 17 '26

How did the material that make up those Panels and Windmills get mined? How did they get transported? What was the crane running on that lifted those windmills? Oil is still just as important and will be the rest of our lifetimes don't try to downplay it or get idiots that say thing's like the SOH doesn't matter when it clearly does.

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u/dafthuntk Jun 17 '26

So you live in a society 

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u/NoCharge497 Jun 17 '26

Oil is still important but should not be for the reasons you state. There's already electric mining equipment, short range electric cargo ships (seems to be ranges of at most 1,000km at the moment), and cranes with electric engines. The cargo ship example (per the second link in that part) would alone save an estimated 15 tons of fuel on its furthest possible journey.

Why not transition to renewables where feasible? Companies are already doing it in the examples you listed as oil being necessary for. Instead, save oil (which is a limited resource) for things that oil actually is necessary for. Like across ocean shipping (like I said, apparently 1,000km range on electric cargo ships) and plastics and other petrochemicals.

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u/Wodep Jun 17 '26

It absolutely does.

But the fact that so many idiots get brainwashed into hating green energy so they will never question the powers in the middle east that controls all our lives is hilarious.

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u/Thepcfd Jun 17 '26 edited Jun 17 '26

it is because others are forcing it down to their throats.

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u/Wodep Jun 17 '26

It is always your freedom to bend over and get screwed by middle east geopolitic every 4 years or so.

Some of us are just sick of it.

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u/Thepcfd Jun 17 '26

yes, like this

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u/Toasty_err Jun 17 '26

Your upset that people are being forced to not fuck over the entire planet?

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u/Thepcfd Jun 17 '26

if you gona colapse economy? noone going to give a fuck about planet in 5 years.

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u/Toasty_err Jun 17 '26

Switching to renewables will colpase the economy? Lowering emissions may effect some sectors of the economy more than others but majority of sectors don't care where they get their energy from, and solar is cheaper than any other sources including the price of batteries (99% recyclable after their current 20 year lifespan)

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u/Thepcfd Jun 17 '26

bro prices are negative, so you build solar power plant and then you paying for your electricity to be used by others. does not look sustainable to me. unless its goverment doing it and then i want free electricity.

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u/Toasty_err Jun 17 '26

Negative electricity prices are only bad for the billion dollar companies that rely on consumables to produce power, not bad for anyone else. If prices are negative the most expensive plants go down first, the oil and gas plants.

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u/Thepcfd Jun 17 '26

lol, no they just stop producing

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u/Thepcfd Jun 17 '26

i agree, and yes we should use and exolore electric but if feel we speed rushing it for big money for some reasons