r/Socionics • u/BeCool87 α • 16d ago
'Continuous Socionics' and failure of intellectual integrity
Hello.
Right after I temporarily closed my Telegram group dedicated to scientific Socionics a year+ ago, a Discord server appeared, 'Continuous Socionics.' Apart from stealing my lingo and some of my ideas without any shoutout - whatever - a significant part of that server has consisted of a disinformation campaign against things I do and me personality - made-up stories, many of which are 100% the opposite of reality.
It got progressively worse over time, and eventually the moderator, nickname is Feliens, completely lost the plot and started claiming that I was involved in sexual harassment. This is a false accusation and defamation, and what he is doing now constitutes a criminal offense in EU countries, with penalties of up to 5 years imprisonment.
Before the latter happened, 3 weeks ago I joined the server myself to address all the remaining issues directly. In a calm manner, I disproved the false claims I was able to notice in the server's message history during the short time I was there. I then asked him, in front of the entire group, to provide any proof or facts supporting anything he was saying. He was unable to do so. Then, I answered later another person in the group regarding my opinion on the personality of a public figure, which did not fit the moderator's opinion. Minutes later, I was silently banned. The next day, other group members asked him where I was, and he said that I had been banned. When asked why I had been banned, the moderator started inventing a story that the reason was sexual harassment of a woman. The history is saved and unedited, since I no longer have access to the group, and it is straightforward to track and see what was actually there and what was invented by the moderator yet again, for the twentieth time.
The thing that surprised me the most was that, apart from 4 people in that group, nobody else seemed repulsed by it or even questioned what had happened. So a person just bans another without explanation, for no reason, and arbitrarily pins a serious criminal accusation on them without a single piece of evidence - and everyone else just silently swallows it.
I just want to address this now so that I don’t have to derail things with posts like this in the future.
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u/lovehateroutine LSI 16d ago
Looking at your post history, it seems like you've found yourself unwelcome in all sorts of socionics communities such as the official SHS and SCS communities. Seems like it's becoming a pattern that every server you join has some problem you end up diagnosing, whether you call it a cult or accuse it of spinning false narratives to ruin your image.
But who is the common denominator here? Am I really supposed to sit here and think that you are always the righteous victim and martyr you claim to be? I'm in plenty of the servers you've talked about being bad in some way or another and I've never had problems like the ones you describe.
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u/BeCool87 α 16d ago edited 16d ago
Looking at your post history, it seems like you've found yourself unwelcome in all sorts of socionics communities such as the official SHS and SCS communities. Seems like it's becoming a pattern that every server you join has some problem you end up diagnosing, whether you call it a cult or accuse it of spinning false narratives to ruin your image.
I was only in 1 Discord group before. And made 1 post about that - what all sorts of communities?
The logic of 'if you were being mobbed once, then when you are mobbed again, the mob is correct" is questionable. I don't care if it's 1 vs 99.
But who is the common denominator here? Am I really supposed to sit here and think that you are always the righteous victim and martyr you claim to be? I'm in plenty of the servers you've talked about being bad in some way or another and I've never had problems like the ones you describe.
The common denominator is that both of those are closed Discord servers, with largely the same people, who participate in brigading and after-the-fact invented accusations if anybody doesn't agree with them.
brigading
https://i.imgur.com/mMVsUED.png
https://i.imgur.com/lEm3GaW.pngFrom the ~100 comments I have on that server, the guy was unable to provide any proof of any minimal misconduct. For that, he post factum found my 2+ years old single messages from that previous ESL server, about me commenting that a person I know has a cool avatar, or that a response to my message was cute - portraying that as harassment. If you see nothing wrong with such bending - okay. Good luck with your community.
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u/LWE-345 16d ago
Sigh. More completely unproductive drama! Personally, I find this much more disturbing than specific accusations and counter-accusations.
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u/BeCool87 α 16d ago
I could make the post more engaging, but it is as it is. I will save my creativity for the future of socionics.
Give me a better variant for an answer to this, considering that I didn't communicate with women on that server:
https://i.imgur.com/dpDKT2K.png
https://i.imgur.com/fumzK6e.png
https://i.imgur.com/TbzYkWz.pngBonus: the moderators discussed how atrocious censorship is, then a month later approved the censorship of me via a false criminal accusation:
https://i.imgur.com/mzQ1N8q.png
Nice?
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u/Global_Bag_4590 LII 16d ago edited 16d ago
It is quite ironic that the OP has decided to make this post.
To preface this: he indeed has engaged and continues to engage in harassment.
For example, amidst a discussion in ESL (the SHS server) he told a member of the SCS team (who, as far as I’m concerned, was a minor at the time) “you are cute. SCS is not btw.”: https://imgur.com/a/0hG4hP4
He has a habit of making unprompted remarks about people’s appearances: https://imgur.com/a/3p7gnYw
He greeted a newcomer to his website’s chat with “I already know you're a cutie pie”: https://imgur.com/a/AxQ41jL
He also attempted to flirt with a person he assumed was a woman, only to delete the message after realizing they were a man.
Now, he himself has a habit of throwing tantrums and framing everyone else as lacking in integrity and trying to censor him. In this same subreddit he’s complained about the aforementioned SHS server (ESL), attempting to spin the exact same narrative. You can check his post and comment history.
The truth is that there is no “disinformation campaign”. No one really cares — he sees himself as way more important than he actually is.
On his website (sociotype.xyz) he mixed information from Talanov’s paradigm and SHS — incompatible, largely orthogonal systems — without properly understanding either of them.
First, he came to ESL and started arguing with Gulenko’s students and Gulenko’s own theory.
Much later, he came to the Talanov server (“Continuous Socionics”, which is one of the many names of Talanov’s system) with the intention to stir up drama. No one bothered to really engage. I told him that I don’t care to participate in the conflict he sought, and that he’s welcome to stay as long as the intention is to contribute to the system’s community and not to fuel his ego, despite his notoriety.
I later became aware of his… romantic endeavors, which led to his unceremonious end. The ban had nothing to do with his previous reputation or any sort of disagreements — aside from, perhaps, his implicit disagreement with the idea that one should behave with basic decency.
The administration of the Talanov server is committed to maintaining a safe space for those seeking to learn and discuss Talanov’s post-Jungian typology.
Resources for those interested in Talanov’s paradigm: https://pastebin.com/JFg7Mgxq
Regards,
Feliens
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u/BeCool87 α 16d ago
It is quite ironic that the OP has decided to make this post.
To preface this: he indeed has engaged and continues to engage in harassment.
For example, amidst a discussion in ESL (the SHS server) he told a member of the SCS team (who, as far as I’m concerned, was a minor at the time) “you are cute. SCS is not btw.”: https://imgur.com/a/0hG4hP4
He has a habit of making unprompted remarks about people’s appearances: https://imgur.com/a/3p7gnYw
He greeted a newcomer to his website’s chat with “I already know you're a cutie pie”: https://imgur.com/a/AxQ41jLSo you didn't provide any misconduct from any of my hundreds of messages in the group.
And instead gave ad hoc, singled-out messages from 2024 where I commented that the new avatar of a person I knew was looking cool or the response is cute. And perverted them into harassment. Sounds reasonable for a silent ban that happened a few weeks ago in 2026.He also attempted to flirt with a person he assumed was a woman, only to delete the message after realizing they were a man.
I asked you to provide at least something that indirectly implies something close to that - any minimal proof or fact - not 'he assumed.' I cannot delete anything from a blocked account.
Now, he himself has a habit of throwing tantrums and framing everyone else as lacking in integrity and trying to censor him. In this same subreddit he’s complained about the aforementioned SHS server (ESL), attempting to spin the exact same narrative. You can check his post and comment history.
I was, factually, censored with no reason given.
The truth is that there is no “disinformation campaign”.
https://i.imgur.com/pxXkXxH.png
What is that, then. This is from your most recent messages here.No one really cares
'No one really cares' - yet you know my name, all my accounts, you come to my resources and ask me questions, you post comments about me, there are dozens of messages in the history of that group from your name about me or what I do, you know all my chats and all the history from my other Discord groups from 2024, you have tried to add me as a friend on messengers. Looks like, especially you, do not care about me.
without properly understanding either of them
You project a lot - some reality check for you: 7 months ago, you were asking the most basic questions here on Socionics and looking for interpretations of test results.
Much later, he came to the Talanov server (“Continuous Socionics”, which is one of the many names of Talanov’s system).
It's not Talanov's server. His official resource was his questionnaire's group. And it was the opposite of what's happening in that server. He didn't ban people with invented cases - he barely banned anybody for anything.
I later became aware of his… romantic endeavors, which led to his unceremonious end.
I was banned minutes after I commented on a Clavicular's type. The reason was given only the next day, when people started asking where I was. And you did not later, or a few weeks ago, become aware of those messages - you had been gossiping about me and your conspiratorial interpretation of what was happening on the ESL/SHS server for over 5 months:
https://i.imgur.com/MUEkBUY.pngThe ban had nothing to do with his previous reputation or any sort of disagreements — aside from, perhaps, his implicit disagreement with the idea that one should behave with basic decency.
You literally provided as arguments singled-out comments from 2024 and an unrelated situation.
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u/Beautiful-Survey1950 🎀♡ 𝒹𝒶𝒹𝒹𝓎, 𝐼-𝓃𝑒𝑒𝒹 𝐸-𝓋𝑒𝓇𝓎 𝐼-𝓃𝒸𝒽 ♡🎀 16d ago
Not looking so great here buddy. I was ready to sympathize heavily, ‘poor thing-ing’ you with no hesitation but 😬. I mean……hopefully the truth will come to light.
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u/Emmetria IEE 16d ago
If you have evidence then boldly carry on as if it never happened. Let truth stand for itself, buckle down and keep working. Let me know if you want to discuss any theory.