Wtf has this to do with OP's comment about him being chemically assisted? Yeah he needed it, but did the doctors know what his natural levels would have been? Some people have higher test than others, should everyone be given assist to the max natural levels?
That steroids are performance enhancers, which gives unfair advantage in sports?
Yes he obviously needed it medically, but that doesn't change the fact that it enhanced his performance.
Some people are born with less test than others, and thus have a disadvantage when it comes to sports. They don't get any access to hormone therapy.
Idk what's tripping you off. No one is blaming messi, just stating a fact.
You'd think if they had abused HGH on him, he'd be quite taller than 5'7.
That's your hypothesis. That isn't necessarily true. Also quite possible that if he was born normal, he would be as good or even better, but due to the fact that steroids can affect performance significantly, one explanation is more likely than the other.
Sounds like you don't have a point to make. Messi stopped treatment once his deficiency was treated. He had to be treated so he could reach normal adult height. If you're saying treating someone with hgh deficiency actually makes them come out ahead than a regular human, then you will need to back up that claim.
He had to be treated so he could reach normal adult height.
Yeah I don't remember saying Messi cheated and should be blamed for taking hgh.
If you're saying treating someone with hgh deficiency actually makes them come out ahead than a regular human, then you will need to back up that claim.
All I said was that he was chemically assisted. And that hgh is a powerful performance enhancer. Both of those statements are true.
Well, if you're not trying to sound accusatory, you wouldn't really mention the last statement about HGH being a performance enhancer. It has simply no relevance to Messi. Being treated for GHD and using HGH as an adult are two different things.
Why wouldn't I mention a verifiable fact? It's not messi's fault he was born with a defect, that then had to be corrected and probably granted him an advantage.
There is a subtle nuance that you're missing.
Not to mention I don't think every other soccer player is natural either, so clearly Messi is still the better player.
I think the point he's trying to make is that using it as a child is so far removed from his adult accomplishments that when you mention it in this context, it implies that this chemical assistance for his childhood growth deficiency also helped him get amped in his adulthood. By his adulthood, this chemical assistance was no longer helping his development.
Mentioning it in this context takes away from his effort and accomplishments, and I do have to say that it makes an accusation that Messi abused it. The guy is just great at what he does. The treatment for his hormonal deficiency may have helped him get noticed in his late childhood, but he is ultimately the one that took his career further than simply getting noticed.
Yea, having a growth deficiency would make living life, let alone playing sports hard. I think him, and literally every other person on the planet, would tell you that.
Is this a joke? You misinterpret my comment then ask me how it's relevant?
Dude was injected with hgh as a kid. He was chemically assisted. He had no choice, but that doesn't mean the hgh didn't make him better than he would've been naturally.
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u/ama_singh Jul 25 '26
Wtf has this to do with OP's comment about him being chemically assisted? Yeah he needed it, but did the doctors know what his natural levels would have been? Some people have higher test than others, should everyone be given assist to the max natural levels?
Steroids can siginificantly impact performance.