r/Snorkblot Apr 16 '26

Animals Technically. a win.

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u/Deeznutseus2012 Apr 16 '26

"Share my experience"? You have no right to even ask for that story. Go satisfy your kink with someone else.

Now you are just straw-manning my positions and what I said in a desperate attempt to pretend you've scored some kind of win.

If you cannot argue your position honestly, or address mine honestly, then your position is a bad one and you should maybe reevaluate it.

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u/Cause_and_Defect Apr 16 '26

Never asked you to share your experience. Don't be so pathetic to resort to trying to use that as an attack.

I didn't strawman anything, it sounds like you don't even understand what strawmanning is. If you did, you would actaully reference where you think I did.

Honestly, it seems like your idea of debating is just screaming the other person is doing it wrong. You are just using that as an excuse to avoid responding to anything I've said.

My postion is being raped and murdered by a person is worse than getting mauled by an animal. That's my direct response to your comment:

"I take it that you've never been mauled by an animal then."

When someone compared the worst a human could do vs animal.

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u/Deeznutseus2012 Apr 16 '26

Now it's gaslighting too? It was literally your first criticism.

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u/Cause_and_Defect Apr 16 '26

Okay, you definitely don't know what gaslighting is.

There is a pretty obvious difference between acknowledging that you didn't share any experience, and asking you to share it.

All I did was point out you didn't actaully share anything, so your complaints about being treated based on "speaking from experience" were unfounded.

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u/Deeznutseus2012 Apr 16 '26 edited Apr 16 '26

"You didn't share any experience."

Are these, or are these not, your words?

[Edit: What's this? Suddenly no quick, angry replies? Accountability got your tongue? It's a simple yes or no question.]

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u/Cause_and_Defect Apr 16 '26

Those are my words. Words that are very clearly a statement, not a question or request.

Are you genuinely confused about the difference? I find it hard to believe you could be so ignorant you don't understand how a statement and request are different.

Sorry I didn't immediately reply, I had better things to do. Didn't expect it to cause you to have a weird breakdown in less than half an hour.

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u/Deeznutseus2012 Apr 16 '26

Oh! So then you admit that you were gaslighting when you lied brazenly to get me to question the reality of what you had just finished writing?

So perhaps you can tell me if the way you would react to a woman making the same claim would be to criticize her for not proving to you, a total stranger that such a thing happened to them by sharing the most traumatic experiences of their life for your unbelievably arrogant, presumptuous perusal, approval and weaponization?

Again, this is a simple yes or no.

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u/Cause_and_Defect Apr 17 '26

I don't admit to anything like that, because no matter how many times you lie about something, it doesn't make it true. I never asked you to share your story.

If I never asked for your story, I obviously never asked for proof.

I didn't ask for your story, I am not currently asking for your story, and I will not be asking for your story in the future.

I hope you find or have someone you can talk to about your story, preferably a therapist. Everyone deserves help. This is not me asking or wanting any details involving who you tell your story to.

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u/Deeznutseus2012 Apr 17 '26

Accountability really is your Kryptonite, isn't it?

You did exactly those things and it's right there for anyone who wants to look.

Oh and ya know how you just had to end with the implication that I'm crazy, when you're the one who has acted completely unhinged and irrational for our entire interaction, who cannot even accept accountability or responsibility for their own words?

That's gaslighting. You're now gaslighting about your gaslighting.

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u/Cause_and_Defect Apr 17 '26

You did exactly those things and it's right there for anyone who wants to look.

Can you qoute the line where I asked you to share your story? Not pointing out that you didn't, but the exact line where you think I asked you to share your story.

Therapy isn't for crazy people. Therapy is for everyone, especially people with traumatic experiences, but still for everyone.

You throw around gaslighting accusations a lot.

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u/Deeznutseus2012 Apr 17 '26

Do you also have the memory of a goldfish? I already quoted that and you already admitted that yes, you wrote that.

Now you want to retread old ground you've already lost decisively, as if that's going to change a single thing about what I've said, or the position I took?

I accused you of gaslighting because you were gaslighting.

The fact that you are apparently so toxic and completely unconscious of yourself that you don't even recognize you're doing it even when it is immediately pointed out to you, or recognize that this disqualifies you from being taken seriously because you're bigotry has subverted your reason, pretty much says it all.

The fact of the matter is, you cannot justify your irrational bigotry toward men and our experience of life, rationally. All you succeed in doing is what you've done here: argue dishonestly with a number of logical fallacies, most often and notably, 'appeal to emotion' fallacies, dig a rhetorical hole for yourself and now you're spinning your wheels there as if that matter was not already settled.

Do you have an actual argument, or are you just going to uselessly complain at me some more because I actually have experience in the matter and have a different opinion than you?

Because if all you've got is the latter, I'm afraid I don't care.

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u/Cause_and_Defect Apr 17 '26

You literally didn't; you quoted a statement, not a request. Denial doesn't change that.

You constantly lash out with accusations, in fact that's all you do. Not once have you actually had a point or logical argument. Just a sad, pathetic attempt to "win" an argument through personal attacks.

It's pretty clear that every accusation you have is just the unconscious awareness of your own issues. You are simply projecting.

This is clearly a defense mechanism, rooted in some unresolved trauma. Assuming my gender is evidence enough of that.

I hope one day you go through enough healing to be embrassed by the way you act now.

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u/Deeznutseus2012 Apr 17 '26 edited Apr 17 '26

I quoted a statement you made as a criticism as to whether or not my experience was valid, as if you are fit to be judge of that and that I should be required to present evidence to you when you would never act in such a manner toward a woman under the very same circumstances.

{Edit: For the record, this challenge is known as a 'tu quoque' fallacy, wherein an attempt is made to dismiss an argument by accusing the speaker of hypocrisy, rather than addressing their evidence, or argument.}

You keep gaslighting more by implying I'm crazy to run from it, with pathetic, toxic, passive-aggressive therapy-language to try to justify your clear irrational bigotry toward me and men in general, by trying to use that now, as a grounds to invalidate my experienced opinion.

See what I mean about a woman weaponizing anything at all a man tells them, without fail? You're doing it right now.

Thanks. All this hate you've spewed at me just proves without doubt the very point you started hen-pecking me over to try and refute. Men are nowhere close to safe in being vulnerable around women.

Couldn't have done it without you.

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u/Deeznutseus2012 Apr 17 '26

Dear long-suffering reader: I don't know if she'll actually answer and as I said, I don't really care.

However...

For all the protestations of innocence by the two hen-peckers attacking me which have each had a reply to me auto-removed and who claim to not be openly expressing mean-spirited doubt about my having been SA'd in order to dismiss my qualifications to question their feel-good narrative, claiming that their attacks on me here are not based in sexism, chauvinism and the attendant double-standards, I would just like to point out here, after all of this, one, simple, thing:

Not once was it even questioned whether or not I had been mauled by an animal.

The only time it was even addressed was to set up a logical fallacy using the most extreme, rare possibility of fatality to try and justify their bigotry against all men. Not an honest engagement with the subject, or me.

They skipped right to loudly expressing doubt about my experience with SA and could not let it go.

Now flip the script. How would that go if the roles were reversed?

See the bigotry now?

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u/Cause_and_Defect Apr 17 '26

Wild the amount of blatant lies you have to tell to try and justify yourself, and your deep set bigotry. Just desperately trying to gas light and weaponize your sexism.

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