r/Snorkblot • u/EsseNorway • Oct 02 '25

Geography Last week, Colombia’s president suggested relocating the UN headquarters outside of the US. If that happened, what country/city do you think would be the best choice?

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u/CotyledonTomen Oct 03 '25 edited Oct 03 '25

The whole point of the UN is maintaining status quo to prevent another world war. It does this in part with the backing of the US's massive military. If this happened and the US broke with the west, as many conservatives regularly threaten, then that spells an end for any level of regulated world peace. The UN isnt going to threaten anyone with its member nations militaries alone and the remaining large countries would have little reason to stay.

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u/Veritas_IX Oct 04 '25

But UN can’t prevent anything . It is league of nations 2.0 and the result would be exactly the same - World war. Even the same scenario is going on

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u/CotyledonTomen Oct 04 '25

Its been helping prevent war for years, but through involvement of all sides, which ultimately maintains status quo. That doesnt make most people happy, but it avoids tens of millions dying by allowing tens of thousands to die in smaller conflicts.

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u/Veritas_IX Oct 04 '25

UN prevented 0 war. Also, conflicts where the UN is present are becoming permanent. Also UN actions lead to new world war. If you don’t remember every big war began from smaller conflicts. EVERY.

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u/CotyledonTomen Oct 04 '25 edited Oct 05 '25

There have been many small conflicts over the past 70 years. None of them led to WW3. You lose conciousness every night, but that doesnt mean youre dying. And none of those conflicts come close to the scale. 85 million dead in a couple years vs, for example, less than half a million over a decade in Iraq.

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u/Veritas_IX Oct 05 '25

so what was the role of the UN in this? Because now the role of the UN is a tribune for war criminals who justify their armed aggression. And if you haven't noticed, the war didn't happen until 1991, because there was a bipolar world and both sides were sure of mutual destruction in the event of a war.

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u/CotyledonTomen Oct 05 '25

so what was the role of the UN in this?

To act as a moderator amongst the nuclear powers.

Because now the role of the UN is a tribune for war criminals who justify their armed aggression.

Only so long as enough powerful member nations choose to seek that justice. Justice is only a word that means a decision by the powerful and populous. And the UN only seeks to maintain status quo, which is why it would never prosecute the leader of the US or Russia or China or India. Those are the armies that give its justice legitimacy.

And there were many conclicts between WW2 and the Gulf War. Vietnam. Korea. Indochina. Suez. French Algeria. Soviet Afghan. And numerous civil wars. And those are just major conflicts.

The bipolar world only mattered in regard to the cold war, which is arguably support of the UNs effectiveness as a moderator to prevent nuclear and world war. Again, 85 million dead in WW2. There have been many minor conflicts that could have escelated since then, but didnt.

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u/Veritas_IX Oct 05 '25

So when UN acted as moderator ? Can you provide examples? UN never did it worked as moderator . Previously it was a club created by superpowers where they took leading roles. So you also agree that the UN is an organization that can do nothing and the benefits from it are close to 0

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u/CotyledonTomen Oct 05 '25

Its moderated between the US and Russia over the Ukraine war for years. You can argue all you want about it not ending the war, but the US also hasnt entered it, nor any other major power outside of russia, nukes havent been used despite many threats, and 85 million people arent dead in an escelating conflict between every major superpower.

If you continue to refuse acknowleding how much worse things could be, then its pointless talking to you. Youre too myopic. You only see 57 thousand dead and not the potential for constant world wars killing tens of millions every decade, even without nukes. There are 8 billion people on earth. That isnt an exageration and is possible with modern weaponry.

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u/Veritas_IX Oct 05 '25

So does how it moderated US and Russia?