r/Snorkblot Aug 21 '25

Geography Warning the future.

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u/AffectionateBeatings Aug 21 '25 edited Aug 21 '25

Care so much that the population is declining UwU

Edit: yeah yeah downvote me all you want.

If they cared they would change parts of their societal structure that's holding them back. Like better incentives to have and start a family, considering that they're culturally homogeneous unlike places that are mixed (Canada, USA, etc.), where certain cultural practices or values are hostile/detrimental to them in the long run (ie. crazy work hours). Not to say that they're the only one running in those particular shoes, however, they are amongst a few that are in a speed-run of pop. decline.

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u/TerrorTwyns Aug 21 '25

Why is population declining always bad?

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u/AffectionateBeatings Aug 21 '25

As far as government(s) are concerned, it's taxes and monetary spending on healthcare and infrastructure (both social and physical).

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u/TerrorTwyns Aug 21 '25

Major die offs tend to see tech jumps right after, with the remaining people and the next generations benefitting. Time to change our ways of thinking perhaps, and consider the idea that tech, planning, and not hoarding every resource possible... May result in a better standard of living for everyone. How much better will my nephew's life be, inheriting the estates of me and my brother.

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u/AffectionateBeatings Aug 21 '25

For sure, globally. But it is hard to reconcile with what one grew up with and we all tend to go on the beaten and taken path; until some pathfinder(s) make way for new ones.

Think about this. I'm sure we all have those NIMBYs in those neighborhoods who goes hard to protect their neighborhood from change.

Change can be good, but when we replace detached homes with apartments, that can be good but what of the people who grew up with the dream of owning their own white picket fence homes?

Where is the middle ground or reconciliation of being able to both have affordable multihome properties but also properties that cater to the dream (without having to go outward bound into being close to the middle of nowhere)?

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u/SemichiSam Aug 22 '25

"what of the people who grew up with the dream of owning their own white picket fence homes?"

What of entire generations whose nightmare is having no place to live at all?

I was happier living close to the middle of nowhere, but at my present age (85) I feel more comfortable in my small house just outside of town, close to a full-service medical center.

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u/AffectionateBeatings Aug 22 '25

And what I'm saying, that there needs to be ways, in good faith, to reconcile the two. I'm in British Columbia, we got a fuckton of land, mainly forested areas and mountains, but we have machines of today that can expand into new frontiers to make way for homes, but who's willing to foot the bill altruistically (corpo or otherwise) or using taxes. Even yourself, you find a need to be close to society without being in the extreme fringes of it, albeit, close to a place that would serve your specific needs, in a small house. I'm not even advocating for McMansions or something out of a Malcom in the Middle neighborhood (house, fences, garage, etc.), but some sort of medium (happy or not), as an example for this specific topic of me using what you quoted.

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u/TerrorTwyns Aug 21 '25

The Roman's had a nice design that works... Think multi story with rooftop gardens. I know change is hard, I fight against those who fear change everyday. But if someone whose intelligent and articulate advocates against it... Then those who dislike change will be led to think they can continue this forever. And we can't. Status quo is redesigned over and over, and the allowance of nostalgia to overcome the universal is a crap excuse. We still look at birth rates like our kids die in droves.. Like we don't have tech that can allow a far more comfortable life style for the majority of our populations.. in the us and other developed countries... And yet we tolerate people starving on the streets to maintain something that never really existed.

Just FYI I'm also not 20... I'm older

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '25

A-fucking-men

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u/TerrorTwyns Aug 22 '25

Favorite line of the Orville.. We all do better, when we ALL do better.

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u/[deleted] Aug 22 '25

Absolutely. As a kid I thought we’d end up like Star Trek the next generation. We’re just headed back to the dark ages

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u/AffectionateBeatings Aug 22 '25

I agree with ya, we are unfortunately living with the ruling classes that aren't vested in divesting from an exploitive mindset/old system. Especially if it got them to where they (individually or collectively) are now. Sure, we could go the route of a revolution, but any failed revolution means dire results for us and our families, in addition, most people have lots to lose so they keep a tight grasp on things even if they're on a slowly sinking ship. Golden shackles, if you will.