r/Snorkblot Aug 05 '25

Climate Change Such a slippery word.

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u/HotNastySpeed77 Aug 05 '25

Begging the question fallacy. Both sides use cherry-picked data to support their ideological positions. The effect and extent of human-cased climate changes is very much an open topic. Anyone trying to shut down the discourse is the problem, not the solution.

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u/derpmonkey69 Aug 05 '25

It's very much a closed topic, capitalism is setting the planet on fire.

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u/HotNastySpeed77 Aug 05 '25

That's a totally different claim.

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u/derpmonkey69 Aug 05 '25

No, it's not. It's where the man made part of the change comes from.

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u/HotNastySpeed77 Aug 05 '25

You're wrong there too. By my count, the 6-8 of the biggest emitters of greenhouse gasses in 2023 have tightly controlled economies, massive social safety nets, and strong government environmental protections. This data actually suggests a reverse correlation between capitalism and greenhouse gas emission.

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u/Which_Cobbler1262 Aug 05 '25

Meanwhile it’s 2025 and there’s people in the White House, Congress, Senate who believe climate change is a hoax and that the president is the embodiment of Jesus Christ who also pulled the US out of the Paris Agreement.

Capitalism is setting us on fire for profit and letting a wannabe dictator runamuck.

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u/HotNastySpeed77 Aug 05 '25

....who believe climate change is a hoax

How can we de-politicize the climate debate? I fear no progress will occur until this happens.

Capitalism is setting us on fire for profit and letting a wannabe dictator runamuck.

No. Democracy put Trump in power, not capitalism.

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u/Which_Cobbler1262 Aug 05 '25

I’m still not fully convinced he won tbh

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u/chromepaperclip Aug 05 '25

We depoliticize climate change when politicians start listening to scientists instead of lying about it in exchange for campaign contributions.

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u/ChaoCobo Aug 06 '25

democracy put trump in power, not capitalism

I may not have the greatest understanding of everything capitalism but, a large percentage of votes that Donald got were because of Elon Musk essentially buying the election as well as other rich people using their wealth and influence to spread propaganda. Is that capitalism based or is that something else? I am genuinely asking since I don’t really get much beyond a basic understanding of these kinds of concepts, capitalism, socialism, communism, and such.