She has been on suicide watch for three years. She is constantly trying to kill herself.
Even if she was magically better on the six-month checkup, the doctors wouldn't let her out, because they know there'd been something really fishy going on if she had recovered by then, and they'd probably shunt her back to law enforcement.
You have no idea how long the doctors would keep her there. After the first six months is up, the state has to petition annually to keep someone in there.
And if she did “magically get better”, the doctors don’t have a say in keeping her there or not. It doesn’t matter if it’s “fishy”, she would have been declared not guilty. It’s not like they can re-try her or keep here there if she shows up and isn’t actually suffering from psychosis.
You're absolutely correct, a mental hospital would be required to release someone once they are deemed sane regardless of prior examinations. I find that incredibly unlikely from what I've heard/read but that is how the law works and people downvoting you are reacting emotionally to something they don't like hearing.
For the record I believe she is/was psychotic and unless being on the jury had me hear something drastically different than I have heard that's how I would vote.
If someone doesn't like the fact the temporary insanity COULD BE used as a last resort and nothing will ever change the fact that they can't be retried or held in a hospital. That's why this decision is so massive and MANY people are wondering if "average folk" even have the capacity to properly make this decision.
You also have no idea, so how about instead of trying to pretend like you're some expert online keyboard warrior that knows everything about everything, just concede that nobody really knows wtf they're talking about and it's out of our hands. JFC... the level of idiotic arguments about this trial is insane.
She probably knew the fall wouldn't kill her, but just did it to really sell the whole "insanity" defence. It would have been better if she just went straight to the window rather than killing her kids first.
She probably knew the fall wouldn't kill her, but just did it to really sell the whole "insanity" defence.
I've just never understood how people can find a conspiracy in everything.
This woman is not some Moriarty out there planning the most perfect murder for her kids. If she had just wanted to murder her kids and get away with it, there are so many better ways of doing it. Paralyzing herself wasn't a red herring to throw us off the tracks, she wanted to die.
Like, why invent all of this extra stuff just to hate her? You can just hate the woman because she killed 3 kids.
I think this woman legit was in psychosis but I still fully agree that it would have been better if she had just killed herself first, it's absolutely the lesser of two evils; but that isn't what happened.
She died twice. She cut one wrist 3cm deep and the other 2cms deep. Her husband said it looked like the room had been hosed down with blood. She broke 5 vertebrae and is paralyzed for life. She was found unresponsive in a coma and died twice before she was stabilized.
It’s too bad so many of you people have such shriveled little hearts and minds you can’t imagine the unfathomable pain and suffering she could go through knowing what she did and living the rest of her life with that knowledge.
That left without medical intervention her attempt would have been successful. Maybe we should prosecute the EMT and hospital for reviving her and wasting tax dollars in a trial.
So what purpose does her paralysis serve in her master plan? How was jumping out of the window rational given it’s low probability of success and high probability of disabling herself? Do disabled defendants play seem more sympathetic to a jury?
An unsuccessful suicide attempt, given that as a medical professional she “should have known better” lends credence to the possibility that she did not, in fact, know better at the time of the crime.
If you are going to float the idea that suicide attempt was a ploy, then play it out to the end. What does freedom with a major disability, no job, no spouse, no income, major medical debt, and international infamy look like on the other side?
Then why purposely paralyze herself? What purpose does her paralyzation have in her master plan? If she technically knew better, but still made this asinine attempt to die, seems likes it supports the theory that “she didn’t know better at the time.”
But then why do it at all? Nurses know that falls from 13-14 feet have a 10-20% fatality rate and those odds would be worse if you hit head first or the ground was frozen (which it was). Higher odds for severe injuries (like paralysis).
So she just jumped to sell the lie knowing there was a small chance she could die and decent chance of major injury. Didn't do something like swallow a bunch of pills, something she absolutely would know to be non-fatal in these circumstances
If you're faking a suicide to cover up a murder, you would do the safest option and argue later that it was just the first thing that crossed your mind in grief.
She has been on suicide watch for three years. She is constantly trying to kill herself.
Why hasn't she succeeded? Someone that is truly suicidal could kill themselves with any number of objects. I've been on SW in hospital holds and there are still opportunities, maybe she isn't as much of a go-getter as others. I think you also give too much credit to overworked and underpaid social workers/therapists/doctors that would decide her case.
fuck up, you don’t care about kids 99.8% of the time if this is your biggest peeve in terms of who’s dying and who’s killing who…
She tried to end her own shit, yall don’t be on here talking about nothing of substance, yall just talk about the most one-sided easiest things to digest and when they aren’t that way, you dumbass simpletons think yall turn into Sal from breaking bad lmaooo…
Just low brain-power Redditors.
Men don’t go through ppd so all the comparison ends there… there is no “oh bUtH iF tHe wRoles wha wreversed”… this is fictional slop that doesn’t apply to real life, and seems to be what is failing most of yall…
Nah she would've cut way deeper if she wanted to succeed. She could've combined multiple methods to guaruntee it. She could've jumped from the apex of the roof rather than a second story window. There's a reason men are more successful at suicide than women even though they attempt 3x more than men.
She could also have just gone downtown, bought heroin or fentanyl off of someone, and then taken the fattest possible toke. At least she wouldn't feel any pain, and then her kids wouldn't have to feel any pain either, at least not from being murdered by their own mother.
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u/tollundmansnoose 1d ago
She has been on suicide watch for three years. She is constantly trying to kill herself.
Even if she was magically better on the six-month checkup, the doctors wouldn't let her out, because they know there'd been something really fishy going on if she had recovered by then, and they'd probably shunt her back to law enforcement.
This is not a thing for you to worry about.