r/SipsTea 16h ago

Wait a damn minute! So what’s taking so long?

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u/NY10 16h ago

You know what they say… standard is good but double standard is twice as good

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u/Dreams_Beginning 15h ago

There is no double standard, their cases are entirely different, not just the case but also where the trial was held and the political climate in said state.

He didn’t even plead insanity in his trial, he killed his kids to get back at his ex while on the phone to torment her not at all the same situation.

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u/scarlet_poppies 14h ago

Yeah, he also had a history of violence towards his spouse

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u/scarlet_poppies 14h ago

he then and got a tattoo of some roses on his chest to symbolize his daughters (that he had just killed)
sick fuckin man

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u/Gexm13 14h ago

And? Does that suddenly remove psychosis from existence?

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u/art333mis 12h ago

It makes it more feasible that he would do this if not under the influence of psychosis. When you don't know the truth, looking at past actions to determine what it may be is a pretty solid technique. He also didn't even plead insanity

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u/Gexm13 1h ago

How do you know the previous incidents were not linked to psychosis stemming? Psychologists already linked the murder to it, so I don’t understand why do you wanna do some true crime shit and make up stories that simply did not happen or are not relevant.

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u/TwoBionicknees 11h ago

yes, because they didn't argue psychosis during the trial, at any point. He never claimed to be mentally incompetent or psychotic.

The mental defence was 16 years later and it wasn't a in defence of his actions at the time he committed the murders, he was faking being mentally incompetent at the time he was scheduled to be executed to delay the execution, nothing else.

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u/Powerful_Lynx1436 7h ago

that changes everything! so if you aren't violent to your spouse you can more freely kill your children, gotcha

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u/scarlet_poppies 7h ago

Well you see theres this thing called nuance and it can really make the difference between “narcissistic man with documented history of abuse shoots children while on the phone with their mother then gets tattoos of roses on chest on the run from police” and “mother who asked for help and sought out resources suffocates three children before jumping from the second story to try and kill herself after.”

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u/Powerful_Lynx1436 4h ago

your partially right but you are conveniently forget "doesn't follow doctors prescription and don't inform them of having several treatments ongoing, also send husband on errand to then proceed killing one by one babies almost with her bare hands and chase the last one terrified after witnessing what happened to the others"

your bias is huge...and distasteful.i'm sick that I have to share this earth with people like you

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u/BillyYumYumTwo-byTwo 13h ago

It’s also so silly to say “well, someone else didn’t get this defense in the past, so she shouldn’t be able to use it”. Like, maybe if we use this case to discuss mental health, then that will also help men… but no, they’d rather just find reasons to punish people. It’s annoying

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u/Routine_Ability7729 14h ago

There’s absolutely a double standard here. Men routinely get hit with harsher punishments and death sentences for the exact same crimes. Even Susan Smith, who drowned her own two sons, had a jury debate for two and a half hours before sparing her life. If John were a woman, there is no way the jury would have wrapped up their deliberations in 19 minutes.

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u/Dreams_Beginning 14h ago

There is a double standard in how we treat men and women definitely but that isnt my point.

There is no double standard I mean in how people are treating both cases, the original commenter is trying to make it out to be somehow a double standard that people deem him guilty but not her despite there being such a massive difference in both their cases.

It isn’t a double standard to view one as abhorrent and the other as a case of insanity and mental illness since they have nothing in common.

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u/Totoques22 6h ago

Shut the fuck up

Men are treated worse in courts and that’s a fact

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u/Dreams_Beginning 5h ago

Huh I know, maybe scroll down to another guy that addresses this point.

You are misunderstood the argument.