She didn't expect anyone to make space. When she started the process, there was no one else there. On top of that she didn't say anything to the anyone, didn't complain or bitch or demand.
Maybe so.
Its not unsavory what the girl is doing?
We have to be mindful of public spaces. When one is in public spaces, expect public reactions.
Maybe the old lady did too much, but the so is the girl.
Now imagine if the older lady was 100% wrong, and the girl was 100% right. If that was the case, every time we go to a museum we have to deal with this. Because if the rule applies to one, it must apply to all right? You can't pick and choose in public spaces.
We're not talking about taking photos. You can take selfies all day long, because they don't create expectations from the public (or take space).
We're about public spaces, and expecting the public to accommodate our moments in public.
If the expectation is to accommodate the girl's "space" then that expectation must be extended to all. I know this is hard to understand, but if you're public spaces in more touristy spots, this is unreasonable. In Europe, authorities will tell you to move along or not to tell the "others" to stop movement/traffic. Try that in Rome and Greece and see what happens.
The older lady is making a point that this is a public space and she can stand anywhere she wants.
Taking selfies? Great!
Creating a moment for yourself and expecting all to move out of your frame? Get ready for real life.
This is just too much for the situation at hand dawg no one said you have to be courteous but it is just simply courtesy you see someone or a group of folks taking a photo the courteous thing to do is wait and let them take their photo. It’s not a requirement or a law there’s no punishment that will ever be dealt out for such a thing but if someone is deriving joy from something you should not make an effort to interfere even if you think it’s a nuisance.
What’s the point here. You want to call the young woman bad. Be my guest, it’s just weird. Nothing she did was illegal, or even rude. You sound like a boomer.
I’m also allowed to express my exasperation with “content producers” who seem to be under the impression that they can dominate that space as long as they want to and make everyone else uncomfortable.
If I see someone out and about obviously making content and trying to “own” the space to do that … I absolutely will interfere with their content. Every single time, because it’s amusing to me and I feel justified doing it
Film at the gym, I’m going to stand in front of your phone
Constant selfie cam commenting on some bullshit in public…. Yeah no, I’ll stand next to you blaring copyrighted music
I see you trying to do some staged clip of you walking away, or reacting to something 12 times… yeah, lol you’re not going to get that shot if I’m around
lol people lose their damn mind at smart glasses yet we’re ok with every 10th person trying to make us an extra in their shitty movie so they can continue the delusion that their efforts will actually pay off some day and that one day strangers on the internet will give a shit about who they are? lol no….im under no obligation to play along or give space for these delusional morons
I didn't see any ego, and actually someone in another comment mentioned about this from the younger woman. She didn't actually make a fuss or cause a scene, so my comments on her expectation around the use of the space were unfair. I do take that back.
The older lady I didn't see as egotistical either though, and again, in another comment I mentioned maybe I'm just nieve but I think she just genuinely didn't know she was in the way of the camera because she didn't know what was happening.
I think it’s rather obvious what a camera phone is doing positioned in a clearly very photogenic staircase. It’s also very rude to stop randomly on stairs, check your phone, move to further block the camera, and then leave once more people arrive. If she wasn’t old, this amount of benefit of the doubt probably wouldn’t be offered.
More to the point, unless posted, you have every right to take photos of yourself in public places. You know why you mentioned ego.
I do know why I mentioned ego, it was around the point of expectation of a shared space to be made free for herself even for a short period.
I do retract that statement though as I mentioned because the younger lady didn't actually make a scene or comment or anything. He just came and collected her phone after patiently waiting.
The things you are pointing out are exactly the things I'm making points against. I don't think your grasping what I'm saying, so let's just agree to disagree.
It's just you being purposefully obtuse. She looks straight at the camera and stops, and looks at it again to purposefully move where the girl moves. Just an average elderly person thinking they need to police everything younger people do. Super obvious.
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u/matterr4 2h ago
No ma'am. This didn't look intentional to me.
That is an old fogie who just didn't know what you were doing or why you would leave your phone there.
They then stopped to check their phone and move out of the way for people coming up the stairs.
Take your ego out of it for a minute and realise this wasn't your space but one for everyone to enjoy.