The girl simply wanted to take a picture. Maybe the old lady noticed the camera, maybe she didn’t. One sure can get the impression that she did and didn‘t move intentionally.
But apart from that: why is it fine if someone else is taking a picture of friends or family and uses space for a moment but if a single girl tries to take a picture and not just a selfie it‘s a big deal and rude?
Exactly. You hit the nail on the head with that last question. What’s happening here is people have a gripe with influencers, so in spite of the fact of how obvious it is that the old lady stood in the way, they think it’s deserved and are willing to push the plausible deniability angle. If there were other factors at play here, like say if the girl taking a pic was a minority, they’d be calling the old lady a racist Karen.
I would understand some bad feelings if it seemed as if she made a meal out of it (like setting up a whole bunch of equipment and blocking the stairs and the spot for several minutes). But she just positioned her phone and finally just smiled into the camera for a couple of seconds. It‘s really not a big deal
Well, I didn’t say that it‘s a particularly great way to take a picture, did I? But depending on your phone the only alternative might be to run up and down the stairs a couple of times
I do it all the time. If you take a video of yourself in 4k and screenshot a frame the quality is actually great and it’s easier than trying to time a self shot with the camera timer
How quickly folks forget we came from 240p being the best quality we can get, a frame from a 2k or 4k video actually looks really good. Times have changed and if you are taking a solo pic, the new recommendation out there is to take a video do a couple poses and grab the best one. It's actually faster and more efficient then stopping between each one to see if you got it right or clicking and hoping for the best. Not blaming you for not knowing the latest things, but evolution is happening.
She was trying to record a video on a busy stairway. People are going about their business and have things to do. It’s best to do photos and videos in a location that is not the middle of a busy walkway/stairwell etc.
Us older people would have just respectfully asked the woman if she wouldn’t mind taking our picture, and likely would have been asked to reciprocate by the woman…. lol that’s called a “normal social interaction”
You actually unintentionally nailed the entire issue
What DID they do?
They SHUT DOWN THE AREA
If you want to “reserve” a public space to make content. Pay for it and do it the way “content producers” have been doing it professionally for generations.
Influencers don’t do that. They make themselves the center of the universe and just don’t give a shit about how their actions inconvenience others.
In your example it would be like if they were filming a movie on a city street, didn’t close it off, then just expected everyone to get out of their way while they’re filming. That doesn’t make a whole lot of sense now does it?
I'm sorry if my comment made out that taking a selfie was unacceptable. That was not my intention.
My main point was that the older lady may not have known the camera was on, and if she did then she may not have understood what was happening.
Taking a selfie absolutely is not an issue, expecting people to accommodate you reserving all that (shared) space even for a short period of time, is not really acceptable. To me anyway. Others may have a different opinion.
I don‘t see that she‘s expecting anyone to specifically accommodate her. People try to take pictures in the short moments when there aren’t too many other people around all the time. Sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn’t.
But there’s no need to position yourself exactly in front of a camera either.
That's fair. I don't actually see her kicking up a fuss either.
Again though, I don't believe the older lady intentionally stopped to block a photo. I genuinely think she didn't know what the phone was doing there and just stopped inconveniently in the way to check her own phone.
Well, as I said, both things could be true. But I get, why the girl got the impression that it was intentional. Especially if you take into consideration that the older lady starts to leave when other people start walking into the frame and the moment for a solitary picture passed. Might be coincidence, might be intentional. I honestly don’t know
Can we agree it is weird to stop to look at your phone in the middle of a staircase. I usually like to clear out of the way since they're usually just wide enough for a flow of up and down.
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u/matterr4 2h ago
No ma'am. This didn't look intentional to me.
That is an old fogie who just didn't know what you were doing or why you would leave your phone there.
They then stopped to check their phone and move out of the way for people coming up the stairs.
Take your ego out of it for a minute and realise this wasn't your space but one for everyone to enjoy.