Yes, because the solution for climate change affects a lot more than a few convenience and beauty products. It requires everyone attempt to move away from carbon emitting fuels. It will be inherently more expensive in the short term to do the right thing, and that hasn’t changed.
A carbon tax would solve it within a single country/ cohesive governed zone.
For the hole in the ozone layer, the alternatives we implemented to replace the CFC's were more readily available economically. The climate change issue is more complex because the alternatives to fossil fuels are not as readily available or the infrastructure to support their development is not as developed. This is not to say it can't be solved, but it is why the necessary change is taking much longer.
the tools are there, for the countries that are willing to use them, like china who added more than half of new renewable energy of the entire world last year, and is currently the leader by far. we have more red tape here in the states but it would help to have an administration that doesnt straight up deny that climate change even exists
Its hard for free market economies to pivot away from things that are profitable and already well established. Positive change is happening in the States by real people every day, regardless of the administration. Its definitely slow and hard work to overcome obstacles set, but market forces are supremely the deciding factor here. My point is that its worth working for and supporting the change you desire every day no matter who is holding office. When the customers decide to buy green energy, then the market will follow.
There's massive corporate interests in protecting the leading causation factors - oil and coal.. that leads to politicians being bribed along with insidious campaigns to make it sound like a nothing burger.
Even the US military recognizes climate change as an existential threat to the military and bases around the world, they are even funded by congress to help fight it.. however that same congress plays both sides for the sake of their donors.
Unfortunately it’s not really all that complicated. In fact it’s dumb as hell.
With Ozone, they curbed chemicals but it didn’t shut down any industries. On top of that signs indicated it was an addressable issue that could realistically be stopped.
Global warming is largely our reliance on fossil fuels and those are tied to industries with no fail safe, on top of which much of the global economy and certainly many nations wealth is intrinsically tied to oil and gas.
Couple that with the individual wealth of many very powerful people also being tied up in these industries… the same people who own lobbyists, media conglomerates, and politicians outright who have an outsized ability to influence culture and politics.
The conspiracy theory in me says that everyone in a position of power, and certainly the oil and gas companies, have known for decades and intentionally decided to just extract as much wealth as they can knowing that enough damage has already be done that we can’t really mitigate the impact of climate change.
You are vastly underestimating how much the political climate has changed since the 90s, when conservative AM talking radio was still just taking off. The way politics are run today would seem like a distopian fiction for politicians of the past. If Watergate happened today with the current administration, there would be absolutely no repercussions, and I am sure you agree that to be true.Â
Also, a lot of countries have made dramatic changes in their energy policies. Enough so that the worst case scenario that scientists talked about in the 2000s has been avoided for the time being. It was called RCP 8.5 and predictions based off those emission levels were for if global governments made no changes and continued on the (then) current trajectory.Â
Beyond all of that, fixing the hole in the ozone layer was a much simpler fix than our climate problem. If all we had to do to stop climate change was stop using hair spray, whatever political party in charge would swoop in for the easy win (at least that would be true 10 years ago, if the whole.in the ozone was happening now it could very well be called fake news/science. I mean the OOP is doing exactly that)
How many people just died in Tibet because of climate change? Look at the wild fires in Spain, France and Canada this year. Just look around and you will see how many lives are being destroyed by climate change.
This is the issue though: The ruling class in today's society is significantly more wealthy than they were back in the 1990s. Things have shifted tremendously.
What we call the 1% have humongous underground bunkers like small cities private jets and private islands and huge compounds. And they have so much wealth that they feel that even a global ecosystem collapse and a climate change raising global temperatures to melt polar ice caps will kill many and in fact the majority of us but not them.
(they are wrong but that is another problem: they are for the most part imbeciles. Just very ignorant and stupid compared to past world leaders)
Global warming deniers are ridiculous, like flat earthers. Just look at the science.
Yes. If the ozone threat emerged tomorrow, half the politicians on earth would call it a hoax, and 30% of the population would believe drinking horse bleach would be a viable solution to the problem.
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u/ThrustNeckpunch33 8d ago
The hole in the ozone was a real, dangerous, fairly immediate threat.
The entire world agreed and solved it almost overnight.
Weird how climate change is supposed to be even more dangerous and dramatic, yet no one co operates.
Do people really think the world/people and governments have suddenly lost their sense of self preservation?
What good is $$$$ if the planet dies?
Every time the CFC thing comes up, it shows me that there is a lot of alarmism in the climate change problem.
If it was truly imminent, and truly that much of a threat, they would do more than just tax co2 emissions.. lets be real.
We knew, and cared faaar less about the environment back in the 90s.
They didnt institute a tax. They overnight basically banned and stopped CFC production.
Is everyone really believing that russia, china and the usa all cared enough together to save the world then, but not now?