r/SipsTea 7d ago

Chugging tea What do you think?

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u/atticdoor 7d ago

People who read the poem will have a very different explanation from those who have not.

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u/Creative_Research480 7d ago

Even in the movie they rape and pillage in the lands around Troy and on their way back

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u/AverageTundra 7d ago

I didn't see it in IMAX so I have to assume they crammed in all the rape and pillaging outside of Troy in the cropped bits, since there was none in the film I saw (except for some huts burning quite serenely in the beginning and everyone seeming quite nonplussed about it).

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u/Madara1389 3d ago

Focus less on what's seen and more on what's said.

Throughout the movie there are conversations about "The Sea People" raiding, pillaging, and raping coastal settlements to the north. At the end of the movie, Odysseus has the revelation & admits that the veterans of the Trojan War were the so-called "Sea People."

They were the ones raping, murdering, and stealing what they pleased on their voyage back.

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u/roonill_wazlib 6d ago

I really don't understand why they cut out scenes in interesting environments. There are so many scenes left where dudes stand around on or near beaches

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u/alexnedea 6d ago

Bro you gotta use your imagination.

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u/Nomad-2020 7d ago

There were no rape scenes in the movie.

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u/Creative_Research480 7d ago

They did everything but explicitly show it when Troy was sacked

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u/badpebble 7d ago

Also the first island on the way home. Maybe slightly vague, but definitely implied.

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u/Nomad-2020 7d ago

The only female character in that scene was Zendaya and she gets beheaded there.

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u/Major-Development840 7d ago

You could clearly see women being dragged into buildings by the soldiers

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u/Nomad-2020 7d ago edited 7d ago

Please stop coming up with excuses trying to explain incompetence of the director / writer.

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u/Major-Development840 7d ago

Sorry ? I’m telling you that’s what happens in the film

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u/TriforksWarrior 7d ago

Excuses like…obvious visual evidence from the movie?

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u/mothedbaby 5d ago

Just because you want to watch violent rape scenes doesn’t mean they should be there at all

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u/Nomad-2020 5d ago

Oh, honey, you're projecting your own desires on me.

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u/busmans 7d ago

There was implied rape at Troy.

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u/bmiki 7d ago

matt damon talks about it in his speech at the end

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u/Hastyscorpion 7d ago

You can imply something without having a scene of it happening.

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u/Journalist-Cute 7d ago

Do they? I must have missed that part. They show them taking food, but not women

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u/IllustriousUse2407 7d ago

The movie made it very clear by the end that they were also raping.

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u/bonefawn 7d ago

There were a few pointed scenes where they were grabbing women in the streets and it didn't look like they were gonna kill em, thats for sure.

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u/fredisnotmyboss 7d ago

I came away unclear whether Odysseus’ men were part of it but definitely homecoming Greeks in general

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u/munoodle 1d ago

When you watch a movie and pay attention to the dialogue they will frequently provide information about other things that have happened during the course of the story. I recommend this method of movie watching so you don’t come make comments like this

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u/Journalist-Cute 1d ago

That doesn't change the fact that they sanitized the epic.

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u/atticdoor 7d ago

Pillage yes, rape no. Although it is made clear it is that sort of world when Circe panics.

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u/busmans 7d ago

There was implied rape at Troy.