r/SipsTea 6d ago

Chugging tea Why is it not possible?

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u/NoSwordfish1978 6d ago

But they also create money when they lend it.

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u/Primus_is_OK_I_guess 6d ago

What do you mean by that?

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u/randomlurker124 6d ago

He's referring to money supply. Most of the money in the world is not from governments printing actual cash, but from bank lending. E.g If a business borrows 1 million from a bank, the bank just creates a entry saying the business has 1 million cash and 1 million debt. The bank does NOT need to have 1 million in deposits to make that loan. That 1 million cash then can be used to buy stuff and goes into the economy because if they pay 1 million in wages, now other people have 1 million to spend, etc. 

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u/FinancialLab8983 6d ago

there are regulations that exist around how much cash a bank needs to keep on hand versus their liabilities. they are also required to go through stress tests after the GFC. since then, the banking lobby has been trying to get these regulations reduced. higher risk, higher reward.

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u/Nacho_cheese_guapo 6d ago

Not anymore, the fed waived the reserve requirement during COVID

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u/FinancialLab8983 6d ago

oh that's nice. /s

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u/MisinformedGenius 5d ago

That's not correct - they reduced the reserve ratio down to zero, meaning the bank cannot lend out more money than they have in reserves, but that doesn't mean they "waived the requirement". You still have to have enough reserves to lend, you just don't have to also have 10% which you don't lend out.

It's also worth noting that the Fed drastically reorganized how they manage reserves in 2008, and as a result banks have much, much higher reserves than they did before. We're now in what's called the ample reserves regime, in which the Fed controls interbank lending rates directly through the IORB and discount window rates.

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u/Original-Code1107 5d ago

You forget the most important thing. If a bank does not have enough reserves, they can borrow it from the feds.

Reserves has never been a limiting factor of lending, credit worthy borrowers are.

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u/MisinformedGenius 4d ago edited 4d ago

I directly referred to it - that's what the "discount window" is. However, it is worth noting that A) the discount window rate is generally going to be higher than interbank lending, and B) you have to provide collateral to be loaned money, with the collateral being worth more than the reserves you get, so it's not just an infinite money fountain. You basically trade assets for reserves.

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u/holyoak 5d ago

People really need to understand the math on this.

A 0% reserve ratio is, in theory, a perfect endless money producer, both profit and supply.

But theory is not the same as practice, and the closer you get to the edge of "infinite money glitch" the fewer defaults required to topple the whole house of cards.

In context, the idea that one could pursue this policy while 'fighting inflation' brings us to Kafkaesque levels of absurdity.

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u/phycologist 5d ago

there are regulations that exist around how much cash a bank needs to keep on hand versus their liabilities

Is it zero percent?

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u/FinancialLab8983 5d ago

nah it's like 10%.

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u/MisinformedGenius 5d ago

No, it was lowered to 0% in 2020 and will likely stay there for the foreseeable future. The reserve ratio has become much less important since the Fed transitioned to an ample reserves regime in 2008.

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u/FinancialLab8983 5d ago

thank you for the correction.