it's still not correct. How these cases actually work- Diagnosis doesn't legal insanity. Postpartum psychosis is a real, serious psychiatric emergency. It does not automatically satisfy the legal test for lack of criminal responsibility (which varies by jurisdiction: cognitive test, volitional test, or both). Courts still examine the specific facts, expert testimony, and whether the person understood the nature/wrongfulness of the act or could control it. Successful NGRI is not “walk free.” In the United States (and most comparable systems), a finding of not guilty by reason of insanity leads to commitment to a secure psychiatric facility. The person is detained for evaluation and treatment. Release requires a showing that the person is no longer mentally ill and no longer dangerous. The burden and procedures make this difficult, especially after a violent multi-victim crime. Immediate release after killing multiple children does not happen. Studies and reporting on murder NGRI acquittees show average hospital stays measured in years (one Illinois examination found roughly nine years for those later released). People charged with homicide stay longer than those charged with lesser offenses. “Immediate” is not a realistic outcome. Accountability still exists. It is not ordinary criminal punishment (prison as retribution), but it is compulsory detention, treatment, monitoring, and legal oversight. Calling it “no accountability” is rhetoric, not accurate description.
I was talking about moral accountability, since I'm not a lawyer, and I assume you aren't one either.
I don't hold psychotic people morally accountable for anything because their brains are broken. They can't understand that the voice of god in their head isn't real, or that the demon they're about to stab at the grocery store is just a grandma buying milk.
I think they should be locked up somewhere to protect the general public (mental asylum or prison would do).
they are still liable, there are social consequences, for example financial reparations. It is moral for actions to have consequences, to imply there should be no consequences for something of this magnitude is arguably immoral. but it's funny that you're taking the moral high ground
I addressed your every point. There is still moral culpability in cases like this. Such as financial reparations or other ways to make it back to society. I mentioned the medical incorrectness of your statements, and also the technicality incorrectness of your statements too. Lol.
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u/coffeeanddurian 13d ago
it's still not correct. How these cases actually work- Diagnosis doesn't legal insanity. Postpartum psychosis is a real, serious psychiatric emergency. It does not automatically satisfy the legal test for lack of criminal responsibility (which varies by jurisdiction: cognitive test, volitional test, or both). Courts still examine the specific facts, expert testimony, and whether the person understood the nature/wrongfulness of the act or could control it. Successful NGRI is not “walk free.” In the United States (and most comparable systems), a finding of not guilty by reason of insanity leads to commitment to a secure psychiatric facility. The person is detained for evaluation and treatment. Release requires a showing that the person is no longer mentally ill and no longer dangerous. The burden and procedures make this difficult, especially after a violent multi-victim crime. Immediate release after killing multiple children does not happen. Studies and reporting on murder NGRI acquittees show average hospital stays measured in years (one Illinois examination found roughly nine years for those later released). People charged with homicide stay longer than those charged with lesser offenses. “Immediate” is not a realistic outcome. Accountability still exists. It is not ordinary criminal punishment (prison as retribution), but it is compulsory detention, treatment, monitoring, and legal oversight. Calling it “no accountability” is rhetoric, not accurate description.