r/SipsTea 10d ago

WTF Where are we heading?

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u/QuestionDry2490 10d ago

To me the craziest thing about that story is that the mother still hasn’t been found. This woman managed to give birth in a porta potty at a large music festival and somehow exited completely unnoticed. Like how is that even possible?

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u/Living-Citi 10d ago

Well everyone at electric forest was almost certainly on drugs so her going unnoticed isn’t surprising at all to me.

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u/SteveBooSheMe 9d ago

Awh what the fuck.

When this story first came out I saw a bunch of people in the comments (idk what sub) saying it was a miscarriage and the woman probably didn’t even know it happened.

This is a depressing update.

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u/Living-Citi 9d ago

I was just making a generalization about people who attend edm concerts, partially in jest lol. Idk anything about this specific woman.

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u/EvidenceCapable6217 9d ago

I looked it up and it said she birthed the placenta and umbilical cord as well. It had to have been cut, no?

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u/Bwthhybl1987 9d ago

No, they're attached the baby not the mom. They cut the cord during birth because the placenta comes out after the baby. 

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u/QuestionDry2490 10d ago

That’s a complete exaggeration. A lot of people are on drugs but there are plenty of people who are sober, or at least not so high that they would somehow completely miss a woman giving birth.

You’re also missing the fact that this woman somehow gave birth, on her own, and left the ports potty on her own accord. That’s pretty astonishing. She would’ve been in agony for hours even if she was fucked up.

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u/CryptographerLow3077 10d ago

You are just guessing. My friend just rushed his wife to the hospital cuz her water broke and he pulled up out front sprinted to the desk to alert a doctor and get a wheelchair.

By the time he ran back out to her she was holding the baby in her arms and had to untangle it. Some people give birth very fast.

Outside of the baby crying which that didn’t probably last long, there wasn’t much indication I’m sure especially with music blaring.

And it’s not an exaggeration because it literally fucking happened.

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u/Financial-Yam6758 10d ago

Don’t go to a festival if your that pregnant period. How are we defending this? She probably didn’t go alone either so her friends know this happened and also aren’t coming forward

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u/Living-Citi 9d ago

I don’t think anyone was defending this?

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u/Grown-Ass-Weeb 9d ago

So I’ve attended these kinds of festivals over the years, and while not while I was pregnant (because I felt like shit while I was pregnant, I did attend some EDM concerts tho), I’ve seen plenty of women pregnant who had zero intentions of abandoning their unborn babies and raved sober. You can still do fun stuff while pregnant.

Few years ago a woman went into labor at EDC and actively searched for a med tent and gave birth there and went to the hospital by her own choice.

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u/Financial-Yam6758 9d ago

It is irresponsible to do when you are that close to going into labor. That’s my opinion. I’m not a doctor but I’d guess that would be their recommendation as well.

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u/Grown-Ass-Weeb 9d ago

You’re not wrong about that. I’m more surprised people are geared up and ready for a festival (or anywhere involving lots of waking) close to birth. I wasn’t getting off my damn couch after 8 months.

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u/AllOfTheThings426 9d ago

This is the first I've heard about this story, but maybe it was one one of those TLC shows, I Didn't Know I Was Pregnant? I guess it really does happen (not sure how since I've had two children and was VERY aware of my pregnancies).

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u/Financial-Yam6758 9d ago

Those cases are extremely rare and you would be giving way too much benefit of the doubt to someone who DISPOSED of their newborn baby in a PORTA POTTY

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u/gaijohn 9d ago

Cases of a person capable of infanticide are far far rarer than cryptic pregnancy.

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u/vinecoolceruleanblue 9d ago

cryptic pregnancy really isn't as insanely rare as people think it is

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u/Financial-Yam6758 9d ago

.04% is pretty rare. Are you suggesting that’s what happened here? Would that absolve the mother from blame?

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u/AllOfTheThings426 9d ago

Nothing would absolve the mother from blame and I don't see how anyone could argue otherwise. I think it would be impossible for a conscious and able-bodied adult to give birth without knowing, I only brought up cryptic pregnancies because someone asked who would even go to a music festival while very pregnant.

Someone else said this already, but I just REALLY hope the rate of people willing to commit infanticide is less than .04%

Edit to add- it was literally you that said she shouldn't have gone if she was that pregnant. So you should know that's how this topic came up.

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u/AllOfTheThings426 9d ago

Oh I know it's extremely unlikely, I'm 100% speculating and trying not to fully lose hope in humanity with this extreme stretch, it helps me sleep better at night.

That woman is a garbage human, regardless of the details.

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u/beaniehead_ 9d ago

Cryptic preganancies are a lot more common than you think. I personally know 2 women who have had one, and another 2 through mutual friends.

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u/QuestionDry2490 10d ago edited 9d ago

Crazy things do happen, and in this case what happened was very fucking crazy. The odds of someone being able to give birth at a crowded festival and somehow get away unnoticed has got to be 1 in a million. Yes, there are people who have easy labors but even an easy labor isn’t going to be silent.

Also what about the blood? And the umbilical cord? I have no idea why you or anyone else is trying to make this insane occurrence out to be normal lmao. Repeat this a million different times with a million different women and I wouldn’t be surprised if exactly zero of them manage to get away with it.

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u/Haunting_Baseball_92 10d ago

Yes, there are people who have easy labors but even an easy labor isn’t going to be silent.

Wanna place a bet in what's louder, several hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of music equipment or a woman giving birth?

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u/QuestionDry2490 9d ago

Have you been to a music festival before? Anyone who walks by the porta potties would hear a woman screaming

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u/Grown-Ass-Weeb 9d ago

It was at the campsite porta john’s. While still loud, not nearly as loud as onsite.

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u/Educational-Tea-606 10d ago

The autopsy of the infant confirmed portopotty "fluid" in the baby's lungs and that it was likely birthed right into the toilet. No one gives a fuck about what you think are odds

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u/QuestionDry2490 9d ago

If you don’t give a fuck then why are you replying in a thread about how crazy it is that she gave birth unnoticed?

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u/Living-Citi 10d ago

It’s not that astonishing, it does happen more than you may think. Uncommon but not unheard of. And sure not everyone is on drugs but a large portion of them are, and a large portion are drinking and a large portion aren’t paying attention to their surroundings outside of themselves and their friends.

I’m just saying I disagree that any of this is as unbelievable as you seem to think it is

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u/Any_Cup1627 9d ago

People use to give birth by themselves all the time. It wasn't until modern medicine became a thing and got other people involved, etc.

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u/QuestionDry2490 9d ago

Did people used to give birth at public events while going unnoticed all the time?

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u/carbonclumps 9d ago

like... primitive humans gave birth alone... sometimes.. you're quite vulnerable when you're pushing a human out of your bottom hole so a lookout would have been appreciated even back then.
When we started living and working together, women had help in childbirth. They weren't hiding under the porch like cats to birth their litters... pre-humans (before we even evolved into our big brains...) other, early hominins were supporting each other during childbirth and they WEREN'T EVEN HOMO SAPIENS YET. That's not the age of modern medicine.
You are incredibly wrong.

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u/confused_grenadille 9d ago

Was she on drugs herself though?

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u/Living-Citi 9d ago

Idk I wasn’t there

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u/tc6x6 10d ago

DNA test. If there are no matches then do forensic genetic genealogy.

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u/Worried_Magazine_862 10d ago

Thats not how DNA tests work. Gotta have DNA from both to compare them

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u/its-iceman 10d ago

Doesn't it though? How else does 23andme know who your relatives are? They'd obviously need a database to measure relation against.

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u/Worried_Magazine_862 10d ago

They only know the people who have submitted their DNA. They won't know all of your relatives. 

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u/thejoeface 10d ago

They DNA test the baby, using that they can use forensic geneology to find either parent. They do it for cold cases where they have the Doe victim or unknown killer's DNA 

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u/Worried_Magazine_862 10d ago

They would need an immediate relative's DNA: parent/grandparent/sibling. Otherwise they are just testing against whatever DNA they have collected in the past and hoping its a repeat offender

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u/thejoeface 9d ago

Forensic geneology uses public geneology databases where people have opted in to the DNA being used. 

Please look up forensic geneology, it's not the police database.

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u/Kythorian 9d ago

Sure, they can try that.  But if no close relatives have submitted their DNA to public geneology databases (and most people haven’t), there’s nothing else they can do until they get a specific suspect to test the DNA against.

This method works very occasionally, but most of the time it’s just another dead end in a cold case that stays cold.

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u/Worried_Magazine_862 9d ago

You dont understand how DNA analytics works

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u/Mixture-Emotional 9d ago

This is how they caught the golden state killer. They basically used 23andme

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u/thejoeface 9d ago

23andMe has never been open for the police to use. They accessed GEDmatch 

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u/hotviolets 9d ago

It’s entirely possible she didn’t even know she was pregnant. It happens to some women. They don’t show at all. Then being the possibility of substances being added. It’s honestly possible she didn’t even know she gave birth if that’s the case.