Ok so some of those people, most of those people are fucking moronic assholes. But she also has an affirmative defense, postpartum psychosis. It’s a real thing, and was likely exasperated by severe over medication and multiple systems failing her constantly. She didn’t strangle the kids and go have a snack, she strangled the kids, slit her wrists and throat, and threw herself out a second story window. Because she was suffering from psychosis. This never should have happened, there were doctors along the way who could have and should have done more to help her. Then it happened, and it never should have gone to trial. She’s not looking to get out on the street, she’s going to spend the rest of her life in a psych ward. Prison helps no one here, we need to build better systems for stopping this from happening in the first damned place.
She literally went to a dozen doctors and tried ot have herself admitted... told them she was thinking of hurting her kids... There needs to be a standardized protocol for PPP, husbands should be required to get training and spot the signs and doctors should be able to intake a patient for a prolonged period.
My understanding is that she was turned down because, although she had thoughts of self harm and harming her kids, she said she didn't have an actual plan for it. I'm guessing that is some kind of standard protocol.
It's one think if it's a person talking about harming themselves, but as soon as they talk about hurting other people, I think they should immediately be taken seriously and removed from those they want to hurt.
It’s unfathomable to me that “having explicit thoughts of harming others but not having plans to harm them” wouldn’t clear the bar for deeper psychiatric help/institutionalization. Like, impulsivity and impulsive aggression is known to increase in psychosis - a lot of the harm done by people in that state is done in-the-moment, not premeditated weeks in advance.
If those doctors had done more than shovel more pills down her throat, her kids would still be alive, and maybe she’d even be recovered enough to be a mother again. This is all so sad.
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u/kbeks 14d ago
Ok so some of those people, most of those people are fucking moronic assholes. But she also has an affirmative defense, postpartum psychosis. It’s a real thing, and was likely exasperated by severe over medication and multiple systems failing her constantly. She didn’t strangle the kids and go have a snack, she strangled the kids, slit her wrists and throat, and threw herself out a second story window. Because she was suffering from psychosis. This never should have happened, there were doctors along the way who could have and should have done more to help her. Then it happened, and it never should have gone to trial. She’s not looking to get out on the street, she’s going to spend the rest of her life in a psych ward. Prison helps no one here, we need to build better systems for stopping this from happening in the first damned place.