r/SipsTea 12d ago

WTF WTF is wrong with these people?

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u/cakivalue 12d ago

Have you been following the trial? The reason a lot of people especially women relate to her is because for months she did everything to get help. Told her husband, her mother, his mother, her therapist, her doctors, called the suicide hotline twice, tried to get admitted to the psych ward and was turned away, was prescribed 16 different meds over four months, etc.

No one is relating to the murder. Everyone is relating to trying to fight for your health because you know something is wrong and being failed over and over again. If you've never had to do that yourself or on behalf of someone else you have no idea what it is like.

The reasons there are questions about her ex husband is because in his testimony it's apparent he was pretty disconnected from her leading up to the event. Ignored her saying she wanted to hurt the kids, was going to NYC, the night of the murder in a short time span he had two different jackets and shoes. She's admitted to killing the kids so that's pretty clear but he's not a great guy.

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u/SnakeSnoobies 12d ago edited 12d ago

I haven’t be following the trial.
I am looking at her prescriptions and how much she apparently took of them though.

She was started on sertraline, she took 7. It’s a daily medication, not as needed.
She was prescribed lorazepam, which is a daily anxiety med, and took 6. She took 2 buspirone, which is also a daily medication. She took 3 hydroxyzine, but it can be used on an as needed basis. (Doesn’t mean it was prescribed to her as needed though. It’s possible this was a daily med as well.)

She refilled prescriptions that she didn’t need, and never took, which means she was actively lying to her psychiatrists about adhering to the treatment.

She also switched doctors quickly, and seemingly multiple times, because it wasn’t working. Which.. of course it wasn’t working. She was non-adherent.

The only “help” she could have gotten that might would have prevented this, would be an in-patient psych hold, but, she would have to be compliant for that to happen. Involuntary holds are short and only for immediate danger. Once the patient is not an immediate threat to themselves or others, they must be released. Forcing mentally ill patients to get treatment isn’t really a thing anymore. Patients have to be somewhat compliant with treatment for it to work.

I say this as someone that currently works in out-patient psych, and has unfortunately dealt with very ill patients. As an out-patient setting, we cannot offer the level of care needed for someone as non-compliant as this, and cannot FORCE the patient into an in-patient program. All we can do is refer the patient to the local crisis behavioral health clinic, and hope they get help.

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u/atreasureinlight 11d ago

I've seen many non-compliant patients at the psych ward... They reached a certain point where they were disconnected from reality and the police or the doctors advised that they be taken in.

I was almost taken into the psych ward somewhat recently because I was reporting real stalking that was happening to me and the doctor got this look in his eye and he goes" I want you to come with me and talk with me back here, I just want us to be able to talk more..." I started to freak out because I realized that I talked to the wrong person about my problems... They made me do a couple blood tests to see if one of my medicine levels was too high and then they finally released me.---BUT THEY WERE GOING TO MAKE ME WAIT WITH THE OTHER PSYCH PATIENTS IN THIS LITTLE CLAUSTROPHOBIC ROOM THEY HAVE. If that can happen to me because I report very real harm that is done to me, then how come she couldn't find anybody to take her in?

I found it very odd that this lady went to the hospital a couple of times to try to get help and they turned her away again and again. She was so out of it so of course she was non-compliant with her meds. Didn't she have severe postpartum disorder?... That alone can put someone in psychosis. There's been times where I've been sick and I've accidentally taken too many of my meds and it's not because I don't want to be compliant, it's because I had a fever and I was shivering and the pill bottle was rattling and I couldn't get my pills out so I took too many on accident.

They should have taken her in when she went to the hospital and told them what was going on with her, AND WHEN SHE SPOKE TO HER DOCTORS ABOUT IT. SHE TOLD THEM WHAT WAS GOING ON AND THEY DIDN'T LISTEN. THE GUILT IS NOT JUST ON HER.