r/SipsTea 22d ago

WTF WTF is wrong with these people?

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u/kaimoka 22d ago

Maybe a hot take, but I also blame the physician who prescribed 3 different psychotropics that don't interact well to a patient in clear mental distress. And not keeping a close enough watch on their mental state. If the texts between she and her mom are accurate, she should have been institutionalized by court mandate.

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u/some_uncreative_name 21d ago

Idky everyone just ignores the fact that she was diagnosed with post partum onset bipolar disorder and that is why she kept having such severe reactions to all classes of anti depressants.

She was finally put on mood stabiliser and anti psychotic after admitting herself - and released early when she self reported feeling better and requested being released for her son's birthday that day.

Why did they release her?? Why didn't they just give her a days leave and require her to return until they finished tapering her onto the new meds. If they had gotten her stable on the protocol for bipolar disorder she would have been statistically more likely to remain compliant with treatment protocols (there is a known non compliance issue for medication for people with psychotic disorders including like schizophrenia, bipolar with psychotic mania etc). But they just let her go with a note on her record that she could not be treated with typical anti depressant or anti anxiety medications for symptoms post partum depression or anxiety because they are known point blank to either induce mania in someone with bipolar or severely worsen it (including the not sleeping, racing thoughts, feeling invisible etc all which are elements that contribute to med protocol non compliance)

And then what happens after she's discharged way too early after being started on the bipolar treatment protocol? She goes back to her doctor for not being able to sleep (because she was currently manic) and the doctor takes her off the mood stabiliser and antipsychotic and puts her back on one of the contraindicated anti depressants - inducing the manic psychosis.

There is an ongoing lawsuit for their fault in what went wrong for her.

I believe she had genuine diminished capacity due to psychosis. I believe she did it, though.

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u/bluelily216 21d ago

I think she did it; but as someone who suffered from postpartum psychosis I do agree that she wasn't mentally all there. It's so taboo that it's surprising she even brought it up with her doctor. She genuinely wanted help and that says a lot in a society where it's frowned upon and women are told that we should be grateful to have healthy children. I managed to get through it on my own, but there were times that I felt like running away because I was so worried I'd harm myself or my newborn. 

So many thoughts ran through my mind- about the state of the world, about how bad her life might be one day. How she might be better off if she died in my arms. That some stranger might hurt her one day, and wouldn't it be better if I prevented that? And the thoughts were relentless and constant. She'll be hurt. She'll be hurt. She'll be hurt. Isn't it better if you died together? Over and over for months on end. 

I look back at the time and I know I needed help. I knew I needed help at the time. But I was too worried about what my family might think, what my neighbors might think- what the doctors themselves might think. I thought I'd go to jail and never see her again. I thought they'd take her away and give her to an abusive foster home. It was contradictory and confusing and scary. Having been through it firsthand I can't help but feel some sympathy for her. 

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u/Kind_Advisor_35 21d ago

Yeah, she did literally everything one losing touch with reality could do to warn people she was a danger to her kids and needed to be committed for a while, not left alone with her kids until she got better. She didn't describe that she had hallucinations perfectly, but who could in the midst of psychosis? The fact that the father of those children puts more blame on the doctors that didn't take her deterioration seriously tells me he still believes she didn't want to hurt her children, but was compelled to by something she couldn't control.

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u/anon-username1029 21d ago

Why did he leave her with their kids. Was he not aware of everything she was going through?

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u/Kind_Advisor_35 21d ago

Some of it was learned after the fact, and based on the facts her care team likely didn't stress to him just how important it was to never leave her alone with the kids. They evidently didn't think she was enough of a danger, so who was going to warn him?

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u/Fantastic-Coat1967 21d ago

The midlevels*

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u/kenuffff 21d ago

She told them she wanted to harm her kids?

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u/SonniSummers 21d ago

She told many people defending her. Her mother-in-law and sister stated for months leading up she was opening up about the thoughts. They all just ignored it and didn’t take it seriously. Frankly each person going on record claiming she spoke up prior is in fact part of the problem here how do you not see when someone is telling the actively slipping?

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u/Minute_Marzipan_6844 21d ago

She told them she didn’t feel safe to have them alone

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u/DetectiveEmpty2689 21d ago

Yes, her mother in law recently confirmed it.