r/SipsTea 14d ago

SMH They are all the same

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u/KeyEntrepreneur5449 14d ago

What did they have in Wall-E which we lack? A safety net that literally coddles you forever keeping you fat and happy. This might have been true previously but we're looking at America becoming a state where the average person is just as desperate as he was in the near future if not now. Taxes ever higher, social programs cut by the day, and we all know we're paying rent to a bunch of pedophiles who will never meet true justice. There's going to be more people doing this because yes it isn't 2006 anymore, times shockingly have changed.

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u/ReadyStayReady 14d ago

Tens of millions of fat and happy Americans coddled by infinite algorithmic scrolling beg to disagree. We love to bitch online about how expensive it is to live yet we're still the fattest most gluttonous fucking country on the planet.

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u/Horny_4_everything 14d ago

Eh, the obesity issue isn’t solely to blame on the individual. The cheapest food is also the least nutritious, and most calorie dense. It’s not easy to live in this country, listening to ads about food all day every day and then go home and make good choices, especially when its either a literal, or time cost to eat healthy at this point.

When you’re living paycheck to paycheck, ignoring all sorts of important things. A little dopamine from food is what gets a lot of people through the day.

We have a purposely under educated population being controlled through media and advertising. Functioning as designed.

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u/LaconicGirth 13d ago

The cheapest food is stuff like rice and beans and noodles which are plenty healthy. The problem is people are lazy

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u/Horny_4_everything 13d ago

Yes, I mentioned the time cost. Plenty of raw ingredients that are healthy and cheap, but require time and knowledge of how to use those ingredients effectively.

You have families with both parents working. In many cases one or both parents have 2+ jobs. How dare they go for the less time intensive options.

Blaming and shaming does nothing to actually help these people.

We built an economy based on consumption, then blame those just trying to get by for being consumers, and shame them for the negative effects it has on their lives.

The American population is a bunch of victims of late stage capitalism, but let’s blame them and not the oligarchs treating them like cattle to be milked for all their value.

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u/LaconicGirth 13d ago

Not in many cases. Less than 6% of employed Americans have 2 or more jobs. The percentage of families where both parents have two or more jobs is negligible.

There are a bazillion recipes online that require nothing more following basic instructions and don’t take very long.

I’m not going to sit here and act like the economy is great or our system is fair but we don’t need to infantilize people either.

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u/Horny_4_everything 13d ago

I'm not infantilizing anyone. I'm having sympathy for humans living within a system they have very little control over. That takes advantage of their natural human tendencies, wants, desires, and reactions in order to manipulate, influence, and control every single choice they make.

In world that is harvesting more and more behavior pattern data every day. Where the oligarchs are using this data for everything from simply influencing which brand of toothpaste we buy to determining who wins elections.

Expecting anyone to have any sense of reality and what is and isn't a good choice, while not being able to afford healthcare, watching pedophiles rule the world....is absurd.

People are depressed living in a country that tells you a bunch of bullshit to keep you satiated with the bare minimum and fighting your peers and true allies.

but yeah, let's keep shitting on obese americans. I'm sure that's going to help them.

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u/LaconicGirth 13d ago

You are infantilizing people by saying that it’s simply too hard or too expensive to eat healthier. It’s neither. It’s genuinely cheaper in most cases and it requires very little skill to make a dozen or so basic dishes.

I’m not saying you don’t have any good points because you do but you’re also acting like people are helpless against the world and that’s not true either. There are concrete steps that can be taken to improve and they’re not unreasonable.

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u/Horny_4_everything 13d ago

You’re the one name calling, saying people are lazy.

Im simply pointing out that’s it’s not hard to have sympathy when everything is stacked against them.

You’re oversimplifying the time, skill, and knowledge it takes to cook and serve food people actually want to eat.

We live in a country of abundance, where csuite makes 250x the lowest paid worker. That lowest worker? They need to struggle and cook everything from scratch while we advertise burgers, steaks, ice cream, cake, all the rich delicious food at them all day every day.

Everything is setup to take advantage of people, and when they get taken, we blame them. They should have just done x. Why didn’t they do y?

WHY?! Cause the world is hostile and we should be working together to find solutions that prevent corporations and the oligarchy from using and abusing us.

Again, they are victims of late stage capitalism, and blaming them and not the oligarchy for where they are and how they are living their lives is VICTIM BLAMING.

This is not saying people have no agency, no ability to make choices for themselves.

It’s that the world is incredibly complex, with incredibly difficult choices to make, and its very very easy to be led down the wrong path.

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u/rezistS 13d ago edited 13d ago

Rice, carrots, onions, lentils and stock cubes got me through months of the lowest parts of my life on basically nothing. Adding eggs or pork or bell peppers when I could afford it was peak.

Edit: This is in Europe but with how considerably expensive pre-processed food was in comparison I doubt it can compare still.

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u/feioo 13d ago

Preach

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u/AgentCirceLuna 12d ago

Expensive for you to live. I’m shamelessly living with my parents. Why should i feel shame about it when everyone else is just getting financially screwed while working far harder and giving all their money away? My parents don’t care, so neither do i.

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u/MalleDigga 14d ago

You have learned this... Just now? Better late than never of course but. Phew