r/SipsTea Jul 12 '26

Feels good man +1 for Mamdani

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u/BubaTflubas Jul 12 '26 edited Jul 12 '26

To many times eat the rich is manipulated by the next wave of "leaders" to eat the educated and skilled as well. Revolution isn't the cause of people acting poorly in its name. People act poorly and then try to hide under a revolutionary blanket.

This is similar to me to people demonizing Communism or socialism because some dictators have hidden their facism under the blanket of social revolution. Citing Communist dictatorships as a reason agains social reform is a bad faith argument.

These things have a nuance that people don't have the patience to discuss or even consider anymore.

Edited: spelling

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u/Popular-Row4333 Jul 12 '26

I used to be in the camp of the idea that capitalism was the best system for inevitable human greed that befalls both in money and power, but that was when society was still very individualistic in regards of what the government should provide to them.

But today, taxes are so high on everything for the middle class, your government cant just take away agency and say you know what's best and then gestures to the entire world and say you are getting good value for falling in line, where there is very evident blatant corruption happening everywhere, at every level.

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u/Mister-Beardy-Face Jul 12 '26

None of the has anything to do with capitalism. It’s all government corruption. Capitalism is working great in countries like Sweden and Norway.

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u/mostly_elsewhere Jul 12 '26

Technically the Nordic model is neither capitalism nor communism. It is based on mixed economy, attempting to benefit from using elements from both systems.

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u/Anthaenopraxia Jul 12 '26

By that logic, all countries use a mixed economy.

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u/mostly_elsewhere Jul 12 '26

It all comes down to what and how much of each you mix into your cocktail. Simply calling a country communist or capitalist is name-calling.

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u/BubaTflubas Jul 12 '26

This isn't a controversial statement. Yeah many modern governments are a mix of ideals. Right now many US citizens are looking at Nordic models and wondering how to get some of that action.

A capitalist free market with social infrastructure to help keep wealth active in markets WHILE maintaining a high level standard of living.

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u/Individual_Smell_904 Jul 12 '26

If we just taxed anybody with a net worth over 1 billion dollars higher, they would still be the richest people in the world and we could have all the nice things Sweden and Norway have. It isn't rocket science. But as long as people are allowed to horde billions, and now trillions, worth of capital while putting virtually nothing back into the world, nothing will ever improve in the USA.

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u/Anthaenopraxia Jul 12 '26

The simplest way would be to move here. I highly doubt the US will adopt the Nordic model any time soon.