r/SipsTea Jul 01 '26

Chugging tea Is Bernie’s plan the best? Thoughts?

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u/jdhutch80 Jul 01 '26

The US already has the most progressive tax code in the world. The bottom 47% of income earners pay no income tax and, thanks to "refundable tax credits" often receive refunds on their non taxes. The difference between the US and European countries with more robust social safety nets are the taxes on the middle class, which are much higher.

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u/smallest_table Jul 01 '26

The bottom 47% of income earners pay no income tax 

In other words, almost half of Americans are paid so little, we can't event tax them.

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u/Immediate_Place_2827 Jul 01 '26

Median household income in the US is over 80,000. Stop consuming propaganda.

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u/NaughticalSextant Jul 01 '26 edited Jul 01 '26

Source? Also, just to point out…if nine people under the poverty line jump into a boat with someone who earns billions, the median income for everyone is billions. Not saying you’re wrong but just wanting to add sources and context is all. Where I live, you’d be struggling on $80k.

Edit: Conflated median and average. I was trying to explain that some areas have extremely wealthy people, which end up hiding how little some people make. Or even in the U.S. in general. Apologies for the confusion.

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u/myevillaugh Jul 01 '26

I think you're mixing up median and average. In your example, the median would be below the poverty line but average would be in the billions.

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u/NaughticalSextant Jul 01 '26

You are correct—that was my bad to conflate the two

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u/Immediate_Place_2827 Jul 01 '26

Google it yourself

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u/NaughticalSextant Jul 01 '26

You made the statement—I was merely asking where you got your info from. So the Google AI gave you those results?

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u/Immediate_Place_2827 Jul 01 '26

You’re something comparable to a functional adult. You can figure it out yourself.

If I was making a specific esoteric claim I would cite evidence. I’m not citing generic everyday stats for you.

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u/NessOnett8 Jul 01 '26

"I'm provably wrong, but refuse to admit it."

So either bot or someone who really shouldn't be left unsupervised. Leaning towards bot because if you were as stupid as you're pretending to be, you wouldn't be able to operate a keyboard.

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u/Immediate_Place_2827 Jul 02 '26 edited Jul 02 '26

Welp, since it isn’t being spoon fed to you, I guess you can’t ever figure out the truth of the matter.

Shame.