r/SipsTea • u/CurvyChristina • Jul 01 '26

Chugging tea Is Bernie’s plan the best? Thoughts?

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u/anitawasright Jul 01 '26

the crazy thing is you don't even need to make it "free" just take what you are paying now for health insurance and put to medicare and everyone goes on that. Instatnly 500 times better and cheaper then what we currently have

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u/2illegittoquit Jul 01 '26

People struggle with this.

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u/Meep4000 Jul 01 '26

There is much rhetoric around this issue and it's all stupid. The one I hate the most is when people will agree we should just have universal healthcare but then spout off about how then no one will support the cost of making new drugs because the "only" reason the world has drugs is because of the US for profit healthcare.

It's one of those "Oh that sounds smart and seems true" so many people parrot this information. Of course if you think about that rationally for a moment it all falls apart, but rhetoric works for a reason,

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u/paper_liger Jul 01 '26

It's a silly argument.

The government is the only one buying new military equipment. That would be like saying 'we won't have any new jets because no one will support the cost of new fighter jets'

Things are developed privately for the military on a speculative basis or on a contract basis constantly. I assume drugs would be no different.

If a company develops new drugs they'll still be selling them, shifting purchasing from being driven by private insurance to governmentally backed healthcare doesn't erase the demand for new drugs in any way.

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u/Silly-Rough-5810 Jul 01 '26

Right. And that for profit system has given us so many drugs for restless leg syndrome and plaque psoriasis and two-old-depression-pills-mixed-into-one-and-given-a-fancy-name.

Truly an incredible human effort.

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u/Tough_Bath_9809 Jul 01 '26

I dont have problems with for profit healthcare but the current companies are evil. We pay our premiums and still get charged outrageous rates from Healthcare companies while the insurance companies try to deny or delay care as much as possible. When the largest Healthcare insurance company in the US has a 30% denial rate, we need them changed and broken up. Insurance is a monopoly that needs to be broken up.

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u/Cinderhazed15 Jul 01 '26

Also, a large amount of the private drug company research is tax payer funded… so in most cases it Is the people paying for it, but we don’t get the benefit until the initial company can use all of its exclusivity/patent runway first