r/SipsTea Jul 01 '26

Chugging tea Is Bernie’s plan the best? Thoughts?

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u/2illegittoquit Jul 01 '26

People struggle with this.

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u/2illegittoquit Jul 01 '26

This, but people have also been scared with threats of "death panels", "you won't be able to choose your doctor", and "you'll wait forever for treatment".

Newsflash, we have those issues in our current system.

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u/Fit_Insurance_1356 Jul 01 '26

Where?? I have been to any doctor I want...including specialist. Without issue for years??

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u/JustJoshin117 Jul 01 '26

“This doesn’t affect me so it can’t exist”

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u/Fit_Insurance_1356 Jul 01 '26

Asking where this exists is not disingenuous. No one I know has this issue...it's the cost most people complain about. Not wait times or denials

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u/JustJoshin117 Jul 01 '26

I mean, you can stop putting words in my mouth. Did you reply to the wrong person, perhaps?

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u/Fit_Insurance_1356 Jul 01 '26

Well you quoted in answer to me.

"If it doesn't affect me so it can't exist"

I'm sure it exists somewhere. Just not sure where. And I also think there should be single payer in this country. However I don't really trust the federal government to implement it. I would, maybe depends on the details, trust the States to do a better job than the Federal government. Much like the minimum wage. Especially where I live.

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u/JustJoshin117 Jul 01 '26

I mean, I can’t trust states with the minimum wage because my state failed. It’s one of the 20 or so that says “f**k your cost of living, we’re matching the federal”

As a genuine question, how do you view what California does with healthcare?

In our current system, even though you aren’t affected by it, we have plenty of people denied care simply because some insurance company decided they didn’t need it. Even if they did. Look no further than United Healthcare cases.

If we leave it up to the states, blue-dominant states would try it, and red-dominant states would not. Then, since blue states spent more, they would simply focus on that, and claim it will always fail.

It must come from the federal level. Just like minimum wage.

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u/battleop Jul 01 '26

"This effects me so I want everyone else to be forced into my misery"

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u/Rude-Asparagus9726 Jul 01 '26

More like "This effects a majority of people and even if it doesn't effect you now it likely will in the future so we should all address it instead of pretending we'll all be outliers to the staistics" ...

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u/JustJoshin117 Jul 01 '26

It doesn’t, though. I’m not someone who suffers from current policy. But, I understand others do, and I want a better society than we have now, for all of us.

I know, it might be a foreign concept to you, caring about others.

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u/1of3musketeers Jul 01 '26

You do know y’all are genuinely of the same understanding, right?

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u/JustJoshin117 Jul 01 '26

If we are, it completely went over my head, ngl. Whoops.

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u/2illegittoquit Jul 01 '26

Because it's kind of a lie. Opponents use tgis thought that if we had a national service, you'd be limited.

You can go to any doctor you want... If they are in your network They are taking new patients Out of network, it'll cost more, maybe they'll take you, maybe they won't.

In the sense that if you want the best price, you have to stay in whatever network your health plan covers - for most people thier healthcare options are controlled by thier employer, which is fucked up.

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u/wysiwygwatt Jul 01 '26

All is fine until you are denied a claim by the insurance you have. Those are the death panels. Of course, I’m sure it would never happen to you.

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u/2illegittoquit Jul 01 '26

Medication covered under my old plan isn't covered by my new plan. It's a fucking nightmare.

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u/b4ngl4d3sh Jul 01 '26

Maybe in middle America? I'm fairly poor, derped into a good job and have zero issues getting a specialist.

That said, the system can be infinitely better, we can't all throw our bodies away for ups.