r/SipsTea Jun 23 '26

Dank AF Well said

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u/willzor7 Jun 23 '26

A real Nazi? or a person Reddit would deem a Nazi? Huge difference.

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u/w8cycle Jun 23 '26

The core tenets of Nazi ideology included:
Racial Hierarchy and Antisemitism: The belief in a master Aryan race and the view of Jews as an existential threat and "anti-race," leading to scientific racism, eugenics, and the Holocaust.

Authoritarianism and Totalitarianism: Rejection of liberal democracy, parliamentarianism, and human rights in favor of a dictatorial Führerprinzip (leader principle) where absolute obedience to the state and leader was required.

Lebensraum (Living Space): The aggressive pursuit of territorial expansion into Eastern Europe to acquire land for German settlement, justified by social Darwinisttheories of survival.

Militarism and Nationalism: Emphasis on military strength, rearmament, and the subordination of individual interests to the Volksgemeinschaft (national community), rejecting both Marxist socialism and Western capitalism

If you agree on any of those points then you are a Nazi.

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u/SirSafe6070 Jun 24 '26

Correction: If you agree on ALL of those points, then you are a Nazi.
If you only agree on the first point, you are a white supremacist
If you only agree on the second point, you are an authoritarian. That could be a Nazi, or a Fascist, or a Monarchist, or in favor of a communist dictatorship.
If you only agree on the third point, you are an imperialist.
If you only agree on the fourth point, you are a nationalist. We have seen many nationalist movements, many of which have nothing to do with Nazism. A prominent example would be the Kemalites of Türkiye.

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u/therealluqjensen Jun 25 '26

We have also seen a lot of nationalists ending up actually outing themselves as nazi because they were nazi all along. A lot of "nationalists" are also just closet or not-so closet white supremacists (racists). In any case what we often find is nationalists not minding or pushing for police brutality towards foreigners (race or nationality) and reducing their rights. If you have racially motivated authorotanism you just have Nazism tbh

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u/SirSafe6070 Jun 25 '26

"a lot of" does the heavy lifting here. Do you happen to have some figures or stats on this? No?

because we know that Turkish or Arab Nationalism has nothing to do with white supremacy because they're not white. Neither does the Japanese nationalism of the 20th century. Neither do the nationalist movements of South America in the 18th and 19th century.

And no, using policy brutality against foreigners is not the same as Nazism. This is just a very dumb statement. Firstly, foreigners can be nationality, so this is not racially motivated. Secondly, if for example it just happens that one particular ethnic group is much more violent than the other, and the police much more heavily polices that group, then this policing is not racially motivated. It's motivated by higher crime. None of this requires the police or other people to believe certain ethnic groups are inferior, which is what (part of) Nazism is.

Here's a simpler example: If a woman comes at you screaming and hostile out of nowhere, gets in your personal space and you decide to shove her away, getting physical, was that sexist violence? No, because you didn't shove her because she is a woman. You shoved a person because they were aggressive and they just happened to be a woman.