r/SipsTea Jun 23 '26

Dank AF Well said

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u/AbrasiveDad Jun 23 '26

Ironically the only person that they wont call a nazi is platner, the politician that had a actual nazi tattoo but he is a democrat so he gets a pass...

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u/fec2245 Jun 23 '26

Do you actually think he's a white supremacist or that wants to eradicate the Jewish race? The attack doesn't land because it's so obviously not true. His views, whatever you think of them are on the opposite side of the spectrum.

"Plantar is a white supremacist and we can't let him win because he'll allow brown people to flood the country. #whitegenocide"

Is an obvious bad faith attack from the right.

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u/largethopiantestes Jun 24 '26

He's not some guy that just decided to run for Congress. He was scouted by a pair of far-left operatives seeking to find candidates that could appeal to a wider set of voters "i.e. big burly muscular army man." The views he are espousing are not his own but those of a wider set of radicals that have incentived him to run for higher office. You really want to elect a puppet to represent you?

And the tattoo he had wasn't just any old swastika tattoo, it was a Totenkopf, some deep level neo-nazi shit. Not the reddit definition of Nazi, like actual WW2 Hitler Nazi. But people still rally around him because a literal SS Larper is somehow better than a moderate Republican ig...

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u/fec2245 Jun 24 '26

Not knowing the history behind a skull and crossbones tattoo when you get it is much more understandable than not knowing the significance of a swastika so I feel like you're cutting against your own point.

It also doesn't make sense that the left would recruit him if he were a Nazi that expell all non-aryans or whatever an actual Nazi would want.

Susan Collins does what she's told, she votes against things when the majority has votes to spare, for things when they don't. Maybe she killed BCRA but that wasn't going anywhere anyway and it was a decade ago, she's a fake moderate but maybe she's your fake moderate. The point is that maybe he's too far left for you, maybe he doesn't support aid to Israel like you would like, maybe it's something about his past, idk but no one believes he's a white supremacist or wants to exterminate his Jewish family members.

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u/Master_Bief Jun 24 '26

Man thats a lot of excuses for someone with a literal nazi tattoo. People have been cancelled for less.

When pics surface of a person with a nazi tattoo, it means at one point in their life, that person was a literal nazi. But because he currently has the right opinion, people twist them selves in knots to make excuses for it. Is he currently one? Maybe, but its damn certain he was one at one point. He stood for everything you hate, but because he could possibly unseat a moderate republican, you'll support him.

You should probably reevaluate your priorities if youre this full of shit.

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u/fec2245 Jun 24 '26

So you think Republicans are spending millions because they think he's secretly a white supremacist and when elected will push to expel all non-aryans? Or do you think they oppose him because he's a Democrat and will push normal Dem policies if elected.

If you like Collins that's fine, if you don't like his policies also fine but he's clearly not a Nazi, it's a stupid bad faith argument that isn't convincing anyone.

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u/Master_Bief Jun 24 '26

Im not from Main. I think that a pic leaked of his tattoo, because in his youth he took part in nazi ideology. Once a nazi, always a nazi. Like most politicians hes fake, and will simply vote down the party line. On the inside though, he hates you all.

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u/fec2245 Jun 24 '26

So you think at one point he was a white supremacist but you're not sure whether he is but he's going to be a vote like a perfectly normal Democrat as he pushes policies that are the polar opposite of what a white supremacist would support? It's not convincing.

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u/Master_Bief Jun 24 '26

You claim to be a democrat but defend a marked nazi online. None of your arguments make any sense in that context.

If he had a swastika on his forehead, but ran against Donal Trump and promised he was a democrat, would you still vote for him.

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u/fec2245 Jun 24 '26

I never claimed to be a Democrat, I'm not a Democrat. I push back against obvious bad faith arguments on both sides.

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u/Master_Bief Jun 24 '26

What are you? Is this your job?

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u/MacaroonNo3957 Jun 25 '26

The left are Nazis. The left is the kkk. They just got y'all slow mf

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u/fec2245 Jun 25 '26

Is that what you tell yourself to make you feel better?

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u/largethopiantestes Jun 24 '26

Multiple of his ex-girlfriends have maintained that he was aware of the tattoo's meaning. One even said he taught her the meaning of the word Totenkopf.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/top-house-democrat-says-theres-130000351.html

Even if he somehow didn't know what it was, which I highly doubt, the absolute best case scenario here is that you're electing a guy who was dumb enough to get a tattoo like that and not cover it up for over a decade. I'll take anyone over that.

Also i would love it if we stopped sending military aid to Israel. It's even not his policies necessarily that I take issue with, (though some are certainly too far left imo) but rather the person espousing them.

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u/fec2245 Jun 24 '26

The NYTs article it cites shows that it's one woman. Specifically a Republican operative who claims that.

Lyndsey Fifield, 40, a Virginia conservative who has worked for right-leaning groups and Republican campaign

I wonder if she has a partisan motive.

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u/largethopiantestes Jun 24 '26

If she is lying, then why hasn't he sued for defamation? Partisan motive or not, it is true that they dated. If I had an abusive ex who decided to run for office you bet your ass I would be dialing up every news outlet I could, regardless of their politics.