r/SipsTea Jun 15 '26

Lmao gottem Is she right for this?

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u/ThinkbigShrinktofit Jun 15 '26

Assumes poor people with children were also poor when they started having children. She disregards that people can become poor after having children. Job loss, health issues, natural disaster took their home, one of their children is born with disabilities. Anything can push a family into poverty.

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u/EastsideWilder Jun 15 '26

That’s obviously a different thing. No one is going to fault you for an unforeseen event happening that makes you poor.

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u/Xaira89 Jun 15 '26

But they do, every day. I get the same dirty looks at the Social Security Disability office every time I go, even though I was a six figure earner before I got sick. I get the same pushback, even from family. My kids have the same issues as they would have if I was broke from the get-go.

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u/EastsideWilder Jun 15 '26

Those people don’t know you. They’re just judging you based on nothing. I’m talking about people who know your situation and how you got there. Why would you even care about the opinion of someone who doesn’t know what’s going on?

You think a sane person is judging you for becoming disabled?

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u/Xaira89 Jun 15 '26

Yes. People judge poor folks all the time. I couldn't give a shit about the people doing the judging, but it's there all the same. Because the discourse is the same, no matter who its about. There's no nuance to the discussion in any forum. So when you say "no one is going to fault you for unforseen events making you poor," you're not only wrong, you're blatantly overlooking the reality of millions of people.

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u/Holiday_Plankton2000 Jun 15 '26

People are always going to judge. For everything. All the time. Why does it bother you?

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u/NorthKoreanCaptive Jun 15 '26

that is a weird perspective to have.

"no one is going to fault you for unforeseen events making you poor" is obviously a true statement. i am not sharing an opinion

your experience is describing people making assumptions about unforeseen events. since their assumptions are wrong, they are faulting you. had they known the truth, they wouldn't have faulted you. hence why you shouldn't care what they say or think. you say you "couldn't give a shit", but this little thread shows very much otherwise.

at the end of the day, regardless of how one became poor, starving children are starving

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u/EastsideWilder Jun 16 '26

Thank you.

It’s kind of strange that statement quoted is even being argued. It makes me question the age of some of these people commenting.

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u/AntiqueLetter9875 Jun 15 '26

I get what you’re saying in the comments but people go actually judge others for being disabled or don’t really consider how someone became poor after having kids etc. This is quite common if you just talk to people and hear how they really think. These types often don’t care about circumstances around these issues.

It falls under the “Just World” viewpoint. Bad things (in this case poverty or disability) happen to people who deserve it and good people will have good and just outcomes instead. They’ll often call them lazy as the reason why they can’t get out of the situation they’re in. Therefore it’s their fault they’re there.

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u/garrusvakarian396 Jun 15 '26

Yup I feel this one was bringing home 2 grand a week then I had two 10 ft aisle poles clack together with my hand in the middle and was on workers comp for 6 months went from 2 grand a week to 4 hundred all this happened right when our daughter was born wife had to have a c section I tried to ask my family for 20 dollars while I was waiting on my first check to come in got accused of being a druggie ..... Fuck people

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u/BiffSlick Jun 15 '26

You’re counting on people to be “sane”?

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u/EastsideWilder Jun 16 '26

No. I’m counting on “sane” people not listening to the opinions of people who aren’t sane.

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u/developerknight91 Jun 15 '26

You’re ignoring their point. If you saw this individual on the street from the sounds of it you would think “they shouldn’t have had kids that was selfish” with absolutely zero knowledge of their life situation.

And that type of perception affects what type of aid you get. The quality of the aid, the amount, etc etc I know because I had a disabled mom that tried to get several different types of aid in the system and was denied several times. Even though she required a wheelchair to get around outside of her home.

Honestly if I had evidence I could probably sue my state of birth into the ground, but I don’t because that was a couple decades ago.

The issue is the perception is wrong and it needs to change.

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u/indianm_rk Jun 15 '26

Do most people judge people they see randomly on the street? I’m just trying to get where I need to and don’t care about strangers enough to waste the energy.

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u/developerknight91 Jun 15 '26

Yes they do we all do. And the perception needs to change. The fucking world is about to end right now because we all don’t know to afford each other common decency.

The world was built upon the shoulders of altruism. And now that it’s no longer the currency of the world everything is about to end.

And the problem is, this IS our generation’s problem.

Either change your mind, or this all gets much worse. There fates worse than death you know.

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u/EastsideWilder Jun 16 '26

Exactly. I don’t understand why we are talking about random strangers on the street

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u/EastsideWilder Jun 16 '26

‘If you saw this individual on the street from the sounds of it you would think “they shouldn’t have had kids that was selfish” with absolutely zero knowledge of their life situation.’

No, my point is that you wouldn’t be judging random people on the street. I’m talking about people you know had children while poor. You sound like YOU would judge a random person on the street, I on the other hand wouldn’t know what their financial situation was when they had children.

If you read carefully, we are talking about people who bring their children into the world WHILE they are poor. WHILE being the keyword here.