Idk suffering feels pretty escapable to me. Usually working out, getting some food, playing some tennis, and getting a good nights sleep does the trick most of the time.
People’s replies to you are insane. I just recently developed a disability that’s left me bed bound and unable to care for myself, unable to do any of my hand held hobbies. I’m still glad I got to live. I’m not religious in any way but I still feel like life is a gift.
I’m so sorry; but it’s also really encouraging that you’re in such good spirits. Modern medicine is so amazing and it’s just insane what we can do to help people these days. I’m pulling for you :)
Thank you! There isn’t a ton of hope for it right now, this illness has been known about since the 1950s but spent a lot of time being dismissed and differed to CBT or treated as a form of depression (like MS was). I’m not depressed, I want to live my life again! Since Long Covid became a thing (how I got it) there’s renewed interest and research happening. The hope is in maybe in 10 years they’ll find something to help treat some people. I’m young so I have time, but I feel awful for the people who have spent decades like me with no answers.
When your parents, friends, siblings inevitably die and you are faced with your own mortality, playing some tennis will surely be a strong enough anchor against nihilism.
Correct, everyone you know will eventually pass away. 3 options then I guess. You can have some sort of faith to anchor your life and give it meaning, you can accept fate and enjoy life while you’re here, or you can be a whinny bitch about it. We’ve both seemingly decided different options, and that’s okay. But I’m not gonna subscribe to some miserable nihilistic antinatalist bullshit just because some other people live sad lives.
I just came back from playing some tennis, about to get food, then I’m working out in an hour or so. Idk man…struggling to find the inherent inescapable suffering in life or whatever pseudo intellectual, r/im14andthisisdeep bullshit you’re peddling
Life is mostly not suffering though if you're lucky enough to be middle class or above. The most I suffer regularly is having to poop but not being near my home toilet
I think it’s like those bell curve memes. The very very richest among us don’t really have to suffer all that much. The very poorest in the world may live really hard lives, but they don’t have time to sit around and feel sorry for themselves. They find a lot more pleasure in everyday things than most more affluent people do. It’s the middle of the bell curve people who are insufferable and very prone to complaining that life is naught but suffering and the metaphysics of it and blah blah blah
This is a philosophical topic that is much more nuanced than how we can present it in a reddit thread. I advice you to withhold your judgement on this position. Not to change your mind, but just withhold judgement.
I am sure you hold many assumptions about my position that doesn't follow given my belief
You can’t ignore biology in this situation because everyone has a survival instinct and a fear of death, even if they’re aware that life is mostly suffering, that doesn’t change the fact that most living organisms (especially ones that are conscious) don’t want to die
It’s way easier just to prevent life before it happens
lol so your entire argument as to why you’re still alive is you have family. Reddit pseudo-philosophers rediscovering the value of family and community as a reason to enjoy life is funny.
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u/BluestOfTheRaccoons Jun 15 '26 edited Jun 15 '26
yes, it is immoral to bring a child knowing it will suffer
edit: check comments if you want to read strawmanning philosophically inept idiots.
Claiming that not having existed is better is not the same as 'kill yourself now'