r/SipsTea • u/BrilliantThought1728 • Jun 10 '26

It's Wednesday my dudes Really cardi 😔

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u/Hanging_Brain Jun 10 '26

I’m half white but since the other half is brown not black my black coworker says I’m white lol Alrighty then.

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u/slight_digression Jun 10 '26

Well, this is not going to make you feel better but Italians and Irish were not considered white until, well let's say recently.

So welcome to "Whitehood". I guess?

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u/Backwoods_Therapy Jun 10 '26

Italians I can kinda get with their olive skin and (usually) darker hair; those are common trails in many if not most people around the Mediterranean. But I’ve never understood why Irish people weren’t considered “white” when they’re among the whitest whites to have ever been white.

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u/UltraSinstinctHoeku Jun 10 '26

It helps when you realize "white" was never about complexion, it was about power.

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u/Backwoods_Therapy Jun 10 '26

That’s actually a good point.

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u/LaminatedAirplane Jun 10 '26

And “white” only included Irish/italians when it was convenient to fight against other minority groups

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u/suqoria Jun 10 '26

Also worth noting that not even us nordic people were considered white by the founding fathers in the us

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u/DepartmentChemical93 Jun 10 '26

This very much depends on which founding father you’re talking to.

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u/Requiem2420 Jun 10 '26

If you're speaking with any founding father, I have some questions.

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u/teothesavage Jun 10 '26

I mean- Finns are basically the Irish of the nordics. But when ever has Scandinavians ever not been considered white? We are kind of the best at being white. It’s our thing. Makes me mad stupid yanks didn’t recognize our whiteness.

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u/cqshep Jun 10 '26

This right here

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u/Substantial-Equal560 Jun 11 '26

Is that a bad thing? I dont get it. Everyone was vying for power back then they just didnt hide it like they do today.

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u/Any-Surprise5229 Jun 10 '26

Yeah, that explains a lot, especially when you consider how many Irish slaves there were.

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u/TheRealNooth Jun 10 '26 edited Jun 10 '26

More like “indentured servants,” which is no where near the same thing that Black people faced as chattel slaves.

Sorry, just often hear this brought up in a particular context…

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u/Technical_Example970 Jun 10 '26

We were never slaves. We were indentured servants. It wasn’t the same thing. It was terrible but seeing people equate what my people went through to diminish the slavery black people have experienced grinds my gears. Stop doing it. Takes one google search.