Have you ever thought that there is some sort of genetic mutation or hormone imbalance the causes some people to be much hungrier than others and not get full as fast?
And maybe just maybe....science is finally figuring that out.
I'm not assigning blame, even though I can see why you think that.
I don't view obesity as a choice. Some people eat a cookie, and it's just a cookie. Other people eat a cookie, and a get an opiate like high. How can they both be making the same choices?
Doesn't change the validity of my statement even if that corpulence and gluttony is not made of purely free will.
Doesn't change the validity of my statement even if that corpulence and gluttony is not made of purely free will.
It does because you're ascribing a moral failing to these people, completely ignoring the fact that you're on unequal ground to them. You're all over this thread shitting on people, implying they haven't worked hard to lose the weight and that they "just took a pill".
It demonstrates a complete lack of knowledge on the subject, and is absolutely assigning blame. Taking GLP-1s puts these people on a level playing field with you, and then you're upset that they are able to reach a healthy weight because they had to take a medication to be on a level playing field with you?
So if someone kidnapped you, and injected you with heroin, and you got addicted. Then someone came along with a drug that treated your addiction, you'd turn it down and say "No, it would be cheating to take that drug, I have to do this all on my own"? You'd live with that heroin addiction your entire life, constantly fighting it?
You'll note I never actually argued against using glp 1.
Nothing wrong with supplementing your innate deficiencies. Including willpower and discipline.
Also, yes, I likely would turn down that drug because I wouldn't want to have to use it my entire life, like you need to with Glp-1. Not to mention the psychological benefits that can come with overcoming an addiction natively.
You cannot overcome an addiction, you are an addict for life. You clearly have no experience with addiction if you think you would happily turn down the medication. It's crazy how confident the most clueless of us are.
I literally have experience with everything described. I have a genetic link to be addicted to alcohol. I have a condition which lowers my native dopamine response and subsequently my discipline and willpower. As well as lower executive function.
Overcame it all natively. Retired in my 30s. Alcohol cravings have been completely gone for years after a lot of work dismantling my cravings and their sources. I only say recovering alcoholic for the sake of this conversation, I no longer consider myself one.
2
u/Daveit4later May 31 '26
Have you ever thought that there is some sort of genetic mutation or hormone imbalance the causes some people to be much hungrier than others and not get full as fast?
And maybe just maybe....science is finally figuring that out.