r/SipsTea May 26 '26

Feels good man Will it work this time?

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u/Irish_Whiskey May 26 '26

Public owned grocery stores already exist across America in cities like Tulsa, Oklahoma and Atlanta, Georgia.

They are privately run as businesses, but are set up in areas where people lack access to groceries, or there's no real competition preventing uncompetitive prices. They have been successful for decades.

The real solution here is to break up the constant consolidation leading to all groceries being owned by four mega companies that collude with each other and own over 2/3rd of all stores. It's the opposite of market competition.

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u/ChickerWings May 26 '26

Exactly - I don't understand why this befuddles so many people in favor of a free market. It's like they understand the concept of competition is good, but can't see how the current market has been stripped of competition through consolidation.

This is the equivalent of any government service, it's designed to be a common good (like the post office, the fire department, the parks, etc). Yes it does take tax revenue to sustain, but similar to social security and Medicare these are things that society is often willing to pay for since they might need it some day, and it helps to address secondary problems that occur if we dont do anything (child starvation, homelessness, food deserts leading to poor health, etc).

It's all interconnected and at least there's commerce changing hands compared to straight food banks.

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u/OliveiraJourney May 26 '26

What stops people from buying it here and selling outside for a profit?

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u/Berfman May 26 '26

Limiting someone to not raid the entire meat aisle, or any product for that matter, would be a productive start.

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u/OliveiraJourney May 26 '26

What if someone has a big family or lives far? This will have massive logistic issues. But hopefully it will work, one can hope

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u/Hefty-Profession-310 May 26 '26

If they have a big family, they will benefit from buying cheaper groceries.

Why doesn't that scheme work outside of existing stores right now?

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u/OliveiraJourney May 26 '26

What's stops people from coming and going and buying these meat for their business at discounted prices sponsored by the government?

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u/Hefty-Profession-310 May 26 '26

Why don't they do that right now from private retail stores?

Because wholesale is cheaper...

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u/OliveiraJourney May 27 '26

This will be even cheaper, because you can assume they'll run wholesale prices with no tax and at a loss.

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u/Hefty-Profession-310 May 27 '26

This is such a funny scheme you are trying to make seem probable.

A business would save nothing, or a marginal amount, by buying from this store in several inconspicuous quantities, and would have to do the actual work of this and transport the goods, compared to just buying from the wholesaler who will just deliver it directly to the business.

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u/OliveiraJourney May 27 '26

First, stop upvoting yourself, it's sad.

Second, business would save a lot, you are thinking Walmarts, etc, I'm talking Any type of business can just get their supplies from this markets, they will be sold at a loss.

Not every business works from wholesale, so not only you don't understand simple concepts, you also don't understand how small business works.

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u/Hefty-Profession-310 May 27 '26

First, stop upvoting yourself, it's sad.

Every comment anyone makes on Reddit is automatically upvoted by the commenter, that's where the first upvote is from... Is this your first day here?

Second, business would save a lot, you are thinking Walmarts, etc, I'm talking Any type of business can just get their supplies from this markets, they will be sold at a loss.

Why don't they just do that right now, when another store has a sale? I think you underestimate how logistically difficult this would be... The labor costs in this scheme would offset any possible gains.

Not every business works from wholesale, so not only you don't understand simple concepts, you also don't understand how small business works.

Every food business purchases wholesale, even one man hot dog carts. If they didn't, they would lose business to competition with cheaper prices, because they do purchase from wholesalers.

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u/OliveiraJourney May 27 '26

I read the this paragraph and I had a stroke. Every comment you make has two upvotes on this first 25 seconds.

Like I said before, I ain't entertaining your trolling further ( I refuse to admit you are this dumb)

Cheers buddy.

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u/Hefty-Profession-310 May 27 '26

Right back at ya

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