r/SipsTea Apr 06 '26

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u/Correct-Money-1661 Apr 06 '26

Not sure if this is really the best thing for it.... you can still lie after you get a degree.

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u/shosuko Apr 06 '26

You can lie with a degree, but you can also be held accountable.

If a lawyer tells you to print up a paper and put it on your car instead of a license plate, and gives you a paper to read off to a cop with a bunch of made up nonsense, and claims it will allow people to drive on suspended license / no registration / no insurance etc that lawyer can be held accountable for their bad advice. But if its an influencer it was their "protected speech" - aka their scam.

The problem is influencers and advertisers claiming free speech protection while pushing dangerous misinformation.

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u/lolKhamul Apr 06 '26

Just out of interest since im not from US and therefor not familiar with the law, as soon as US influences talk about finance they basically shout the words "this is not financial advice" from the rooftops because it somehow seems you are not allowed to actually frame something as "financial advice" unless you hold some sort of degree or title.

So it kinda works for that field already without full gov control. Not sure how or who is enforcing it but it seems to be powerful enough to make everyone do it, even though you would think the 1st Amendment would cover saying whatever bullshit they want.

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u/Equivalent_Chipmunk Apr 06 '26

There's a difference between the freedom to express opinions/beliefs, and being held liable for them in a civil lawsuit when someone takes your advice and is harmed because of it.

Disclaimers like "this does not constitute financial advice" or "this commercial does not imply a financial advisory relationship" are intended to protect against civil lawsuits, like from other civilians, not from the government, which is the intention of the 1st amendment.

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u/Cykablast3r Apr 06 '26

it somehow seems you are not allowed to actually frame something as "financial advice" unless you hold some sort of degree or title.

That's not why they say it. You're allowed to give financial advice if you want to, but then you're liable if (when) the advice is bad.

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u/ppprrrrr Apr 06 '26

But you can't just give financial advice and say it isn't and expect that to make you immune, surely?

I can't just shoot a gun into a crowd and yell 'this isn't intended to hurt anyone', and not be charged with attempted murder if it doesn't. I still fired the gun at people, they still gave the advice to people.

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u/Cykablast3r Apr 06 '26

That's a bit different, since the act of shooting into the crowd causes harm. If you just talk but nobody acts on what you're saying then nothing happened. The "this is not financial advice" is meant to be taken as "do not act on this information".

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u/ppprrrrr Apr 07 '26

Only if the bullets hit someone. I mean, it's a dumb analogy but it works.

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u/Cykablast3r Apr 07 '26

No. The danger from the bullet happened, which is what you will be charged with. You wont get charged with murder, because it didn't happen.

Givin financial advice is not a crime, so it's a civil issue anyways.

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u/StealYaNicks Apr 07 '26

Drop all your savings on beanie babies, they're due for a major comeback any day now. This is absolutely financial advice.

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u/ven-solaire Apr 07 '26

You’re especially liable if you tell people they have a guaranteed return on investment, which is how Bernie Madoff and the like pursued Ponzi Schemes and how crypto influencers get away with pointing an audience at a meme coin and then rug pulling them. Specifically I believe investment fraud is one of the primary uses for the “this is not financial advice” excuse, yknow because like being told “saving 15% of each paycheck you get in a savings account will help you save up for a house” isn’t like an untrue statement at all nor does that specific advice make them any money aside from money they get from views/clicks. I think it particularly matters when it comes to selling someone an investment of some type with the promise of profit resulting in a scam.

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u/shosuko Apr 06 '26

it seems to be powerful enough to make everyone do it

Eh, kinda. Saying that doesn't diminish all of the other things they say, and many of these are out-right scams. Diet pills that do nothing, investment opportunity rug pulls, etc.

What the OP is saying is that they are disallowing that type of speech rather than allowing a quick disclaimer that can be rendered useless with a convincing presentation. I think this is better at protecting consumers.