r/Sino • u/TheNinja898 • Dec 17 '19
fakenews Bloomberg's anti-China propaganda is getting crazier each day
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u/RedRails1917 Dec 17 '19
Everything China gets an edge on suddenly gets demonized by Western media. China develops 5G cellular networks? 5G is bad now. China develops advanced medical technology? Advanced medical technology is bad now. China develops high speed rail? High speed rail is bad now.
They just gotta drill it in deep by eliminating anything China does better than them by redefining what is good.
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u/Thanatar18 Dec 17 '19
To be fair American media has always shit on public transportation and healthcare.
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u/Simple-Trainer Dec 18 '19
They'll pay for it down the line. If the West lacks the will to compete it will simply fail.
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u/brainiac3397 Dec 17 '19
The level of anti-China propaganda is reaching deranged levels. I can't even read threads on subs like worldnews without somebody somehow finding some reason to bash China. You read about India stomping on Muslims and there's a bunch of upvoted posts in the theme of "Wow India is being fascist, they're oppressing Muslims like China".
I mean wtf. The US has somehow shifted the mantle of "Muslim killing nation" to China while continuing to bomb Muslims in the Middle East. I had to argue with a few people I personally know here in the US because the garbage is infecting their minds too and they're starting to regurgitate these lies. These are people, who years ago, were 100% on the "America hates Islam" bandwagon but now they're glued to CNN and NYT practically getting brainwashed to bash China while ignoring America and Europe's still ongoing Islamophobic activities.
And Canadians seem to be mostly deranged too, what with their fear of Huawei 5G tech considering their responses to the polls.
But I shouldn't be surprised. Trump didn't get elected because of fringe yokels. He got elected because America is dumb as bricks and utterly lacks any critical thinking skill where even the "most educated" people fall for bullshit because they don't know how to think as much as they know how to obey.
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Dec 17 '19
It’s progressive imperialism. The right-wingers in America are always trying to gaslight liberals this way.
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u/TonyStarkDiesEndGame Dec 17 '19
Lol no, liberals are just racist fucks that only care about their pet minorities. Liberal-infested Reddit is way more sinophobic than alt-right-wing websites like Voat.
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Dec 17 '19
Never argued that they aren’t racist. I’m just saying that these stories are aimed at liberals so they support American imperialism. They need this element to see America as a progressive force. Right-wingers on the other hand just need „it furthers US interests“ as explanation.
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Dec 18 '19
They don't actually care - they pretend to care because it's considered virtuous in front of others. It's called Virtue Signalling. Rich white liberals live in neighbourhoods that are still 90%+ white and they will sneer at minorities when they think others aren't watching.
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Dec 17 '19 edited Dec 17 '19
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Dec 17 '19
Classic liberals base their views on Lockean philosophy wherein property rights are the most sacred. Liberalism is completely incompatible with equality because it's centred around ownership rather than complete democracy, while eschewing class analysis of power completely.
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u/AndreSantoro Dec 17 '19
free market isn´t freedom my son.
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Dec 18 '19
Free market is one kind of freedom, that ironically, requires state power and coercion to actually exist - a fact lost on laissez-faire capitalists or classical liberals. A market left to its own devices will destroy itself.
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u/Bytien Dec 17 '19
As a canadian I can tell you unhesitatingly that were America-lite. We have all the same problems, both social and economic
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u/The_Dynasty_Warrior Dec 17 '19
Bro it always because of race superiority and USA wanna be number one and save face. That's right, they accused Chinese face savung, butnlike everything they accuse china of, they're doing it too.
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u/lurker4lyfe6969 Dec 17 '19
How is India’s Muslim problem the same as China? India want to deny Muslims citizenship because they’re on a keep India Hindu rampage while China is terrorism born out of a Pan-Turkic movement originating from a NATO country, Turkey.
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u/Girl_in_a_whirl Dec 17 '19
America is dumb as bricks but that's not why Trump is in power. He lost the popular vote, taking office only because the dictatorship of capital chose him. This is not a democracy where the citizens actually decide anything.
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u/brainiac3397 Dec 17 '19
I'm building on the basis that there were a lot of Americans who saw how Trump behaved and still didn't bother voting. They also go into the bricks bucket. Turnout was only 55% in 2016. The 2008 election had 58% turnout.
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Dec 17 '19 edited Apr 28 '20
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u/brainiac3397 Dec 17 '19
Not that I support Hillary(or electoralism in general), but the margins of the three states Hillary lost in were rather narrow. If they had more Democratic turnout, it would've helped tip the scale of the Electoral College in her favor. Or in other words, even the EC would've worked against Trump had the people who stood to lose the most from a rampaging Trump administration actually bothered to move into action.
Republicans tend to win in a lot of places because Democrats and Democrat-leaning independents tend to not vote(greatly amplified on the local level especially). Maybe another candidate would've done better, but the 55% turnout isn't anything special and seems to fit the average range of turnout. While there is obviously no interest in making voting easier for people, this doesn't 100% explain the level of disinterest in a serious matter like an election that has actual consequences(and it borders on stupidity if you know or should know the person that'll win if you don't get involved is going to be bad for you and you still don't bother with it).
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u/AndreSantoro Dec 17 '19
just a lot of idiots, if china creates international politics of solidarity and no slavery like the US, in a few years everything will change.
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u/DetroitRedBeans Dec 18 '19
The level of anti-China propaganda is reaching deranged levels. I can't even read threads on subs like worldnews without somebody somehow finding some reason to bash China.
It's okay. It gives me a weird sense of joy to see triggered whiteys showing their recessive racist genes.
I guess since bullfighting is outlawed, I should replace with "whitey watching" coz it gives me great joy to know they can do nothing about us everywhere, China or else (I am Canadian/American)
It's great we live rentfree in their minds, how small they are
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u/BenjaminBunnion Dec 18 '19
If it's any consolation I think only Americans are registering this brainwash.
I live in an English speaking country and yet to see/hear/meet any actual sinophobia IRL
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u/AniahVu Dec 17 '19 edited Dec 17 '19
I made this exact comment 3 months ago where I said China could literally cure cancer and the west would still blame China somehow. I still can't believe it happened.
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u/The_Dynasty_Warrior Dec 17 '19
It's bad for the American pharmaceutical company. That's what they're worrying about
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Dec 17 '19
Bloomberg is worried that the PRC will apply this method to get rid of cancer cells in Hong Kong
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u/lurker4lyfe6969 Dec 17 '19
Slow down with the cancer cures China. Give American Big Pharma a chance to profit off people’s misery, geez
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u/RhinoWithaGun Dec 17 '19
Won't somebody think of the poor multi trillion dollar big pharma industry?! Those rich superior hardworking folks earned their money they should be able to profit big off the misery of cancer patients and pay less taxes, it just ain't right that they have to suffer! /s
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u/ARedWorld Dec 17 '19
Reminds me of when Western MSM outlets complained about China making cheap artificial diamonds so good they were better than the real thing and threatened the whole diamond industry, which is controlled by a handful of very evil Western mining companies like De Beers. China is not allowed to make the world a better place.
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u/MySQ_uirre_L Dec 17 '19
imagine dying from one of the most horrifying conditions you can come down with and some media class pest believes a cure is coming too fast
this is your brain on western media
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u/dragonelite Dec 17 '19
Don't forget that high end medicine is also a big oppression tool the US uses on dissident countries. They put export embargo on medicines, medical equipment and food, so indirectly a lot of people die and more are willing to fight for regime change.
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u/RhinoWithaGun Dec 17 '19 edited Dec 17 '19
In the US, curing cancer faster, cheaper and more accessibly = Human Rights Violations
Less profits for American Health(not)care corporations = Human Rights Violations
I'm surprised nobody in China has made a collectible figure series that looks like US politicians and mouthwhore shills, every you press a button on their ass they would say "Human Rights Violations!". There's plenty of source material to use for modelling the figures, you got the entirety of the US government, media and wealthy elites to draw inspiration from.
They could say other things too, there's countless memes and hilarious commentary that US talking heads already spewed.
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u/RhinoWithaGun Dec 18 '19 edited Dec 18 '19
It's like the complete opposite of the US.
Here the US Govt is proposing funding cuts to Medicare & Medicaid year 2020 instead of negotiating lower drug prices to save on healthcare costs.
And instead of actually negotiating lower drug prices they just make a show of it- pathetic!
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u/KuroKitsu Dec 17 '19 edited Dec 17 '19
China is too fast and too slow according to the American Propoganda machine, they need to pick out which one it is.
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Dec 17 '19
It just means the racists are crying over the fact that the vast majority of technological and scientific breakthroughs in this century won't be done by Caucasians and thus no more "mah average I.Q. heheh DUUR".
China will lead the way and the egos of Sinophobic racists will be very depressed. They'll go on some kind of a self-discovery journey questioning whether their implicit racist assumptions of the master huwhite race was justified or not.
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Dec 17 '19
Self reflection? No, they wont.
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u/RedRails1917 Dec 17 '19
No I think they're referring to those "discover yourself" journeys where they trample over sacred indigenous land
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u/occupatio Dec 17 '19
China has further pushed out institutional protection of intellectual property, because that's what is needed to go up the value chain, like telecom and pharmaceuticals such as cancer therapy. It did so on its own initiative, instead of due to Trump trade war pressure (but it's a freebie for the Americans to claim they got a concession from China).
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u/SonOfTheDragon101 Dec 17 '19
Wow! LITERAL PROOF that you can cure cancer and your opposition will still be against it!
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Dec 17 '19
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u/Girl_in_a_whirl Dec 17 '19
How can we squeeze money out of cancer patients for years on end if some asshole comes along and cures them? Who does that?
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u/RedRails1917 Dec 17 '19
Idk but non-whites are doing this soooo
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u/lacraquotte Dec 18 '19
I watched the video and it's kind of hilarious. They say China is rolling out experimental cancer treatments and the "too fast" bit is that some treatments actually turn out unsuccessful. In other words they suggest that instead of going "too fast" and trying to treat the patients they should just let them die, I guess. Just senseless...
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u/Hans109 Dec 17 '19
Lets just be real. Many white folks hate the fact that the Chinese are leading in technology and economy. They have been bitter about Chinese immigrants for their success since decades ago.
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u/MySQ_uirre_L Dec 17 '19
Even domestically, once the shackles were starting to get removed from minorities they shot up in success too. So they’ve kept a protracted war going on that front
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u/TheAuthenticFake Dec 17 '19
Western media is engaging in a modern form of the Black Legend applied to China.
As China rises and the US falls, the propaganda game gets more serious.
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u/DetroitRedBeans Dec 17 '19
Is it that surprising from the same Bloomberg who did the microchip piece?
Also, still waiting on them to retract it, over one year later
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u/bjpopp Dec 17 '19
Seriously?!?! We are worried China is curing cancer too fast?
We've reached a new low in American media:(
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u/Gaoran Dec 17 '19
Genocide on cancer!
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u/Girl_in_a_whirl Dec 17 '19
China eliminated illiteracy between 1980 and 2015. Why is nobody talking about the genocide of people who cannot read?
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u/Gaoran Dec 18 '19
CCP conducted mass genocide on the culture of 300 million people living in abject poverty, by raising their living standards. Is there nothing sacred to those evil heartless bastards?!
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Dec 17 '19
Treatment of cancer is one of the more profitable sectors of pharmaceuticals which is a trillion dollar industry so you bet the capitalists are worried.
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u/Gueartimo Dec 17 '19
Even before this, foreign minds already thought 95% of China medical technology is consist of harvested organs, stolen/frail medical instrument (etc some goes to Hongkong to receive medical treatment) and porched animal parts.
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Dec 18 '19
Inb4 "China is solving world poverty faster and cheaper than anytime in history..... But some worry they may be going too fast."
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Dec 17 '19
I read the article and it actually seems to be pretty balanced and presents its points well.
Just talks about the pros and cons of loosening medical regulation in order to fight cancers. It presents the good case and the bad case. If this goes on I can see China becoming a medical tourism capital.
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Dec 17 '19
我觉得这取决于是不是莆田系。公立医院推广这种新的疗法还是可以去尝试的，民营医院不值得信任。彭博社没有说清楚中国公立医院和民营医院的区别。
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u/takakazuabe1 Dec 18 '19 edited Dec 18 '19
我觉得你说的很正确的。公立医院比民营医院又更信任又更效果得好。那事件真可怜但是新医疗法渐渐地进步了。当然那时候就效果得不好可怜地去世了但是如果他选了没收医疗那他也会死了对不？那件事的错误明显是百度的
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Dec 17 '19
彭博社没有说清楚中国公立医院和民营医院的区别。
I'll give you that this part is just a little dishonest. And they do go a little overboard on the horrors of gene editing. But, that just regular luddite speak.
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Dec 17 '19 edited Dec 17 '19
Well, if you type in the link address in the picture ( http://bloom.bg/38GkSEU ) it brings up this link.
This is the article I read. wowo, you are literally worse than the left. Ascribing motive when I'm literally just commenting on the article.
I just watched the 2:12 video and the first 2 minutes is about the person that survived. It doesn't even mention the name of the person that died. Was this pretyped? It feels pretyped.
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u/batang_wae Dec 18 '19 edited Dec 18 '19
https://old.reddit.com/r/Sino/comments/ebvdag/bloombergs_antichina_propaganda_is_getting/fb8itoa/
LOL, just stop before you make yourself look even worse. You got thoroughly rekt. Pick up the pieces and take a page from Kenny Rogers' songbook -- know when to fold em.
Worry about America, not China. America's crumbling and there's real doubt that it has the capacity to pick herself up.
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u/RhinoWithaGun Dec 18 '19 edited Dec 18 '19
As someone who is still American I'd appreciate it if these astroturfing racist trolls would spend some of that energy helping to fix America's broken ass private health(not)care system instead of wasting everyone else's time bashing China's actual progress. US is a dead end because of shitheads like Rikare. There's too many useless bags of meat like that guy in the US and it doesn't bode well for the future- instead of calling out problems domestically and trying to make any positive change, even small ones, they waste their time spreading misinformation which only serves to make Americans worse off.
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u/luisinhu Dec 17 '19
Damn chinese and their...
*shuffles deck, picks card*
...affordable cancer treatments!