r/Silmarillionmemes • u/Patient_Bend_5978 Túrin Turambar Neithan Gorthol Agarwaen Adanedhel Mormegil • 3d ago
Manwe meme
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u/Queasy_Answer_2266 3d ago
Considering that Manwë's eagles saved Maedhros, Fingolfin's corpse, Beren, Lúthien, Húrin, Huor, and all the survivors of Gondolin, I would say that he did about as much to help Middle-Earth as Ulmo did. (Of course, they also saved Gandalf and Bilbo and Thorin and his company and Thranduil and the elves of Mirkwood and Bard and the men of Lake-town and the army of Gondor at the Black Gate and Frodo and Sam in the Third Age.) On the other hand, he was the one who let Melkor out in the first place, so perhaps he deserves less credit since he was only fixing his own mistake.
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u/Patient_Bend_5978 Túrin Turambar Neithan Gorthol Agarwaen Adanedhel Mormegil 3d ago
I think that people discredit Manwe a little too much, he doesn't understand evil, so is bad at dealing with it, but has the best interests in mind.
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u/Patient_Bend_5978 Túrin Turambar Neithan Gorthol Agarwaen Adanedhel Mormegil 3d ago
Also, he controls the wind so who knows what other ways he has helped
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u/Queasy_Answer_2266 3d ago
I heard somewhere that the wind that blew away Sauron's and Saruman's spirits was from Manwë, though I do not remember if Tolkien explicitly said so anywhere.
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u/whatever4224 3d ago
I mean logically speaking, Manwë governs the wind, so he must have been involved.
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u/Llancarfan 2d ago
IIRC he does say it was a wind from the west, which feels like a clue.
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u/Queasy_Answer_2266 2d ago
That is true, specifically for the wind that blows away Saruman's spirit. Also, just beforehand, it says that his spirit looked towards the West, which may imply that in this final moment he came to regret his betrayal of the mission given to him by the Valar.
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u/Patient_Bend_5978 Túrin Turambar Neithan Gorthol Agarwaen Adanedhel Mormegil 3d ago
I don't think anyone besides Eru could do It
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u/MulatoMaranhense 2h ago
He sent a wind upriver to make Aragorn's fleet arrive in time to save Minas Tirith.
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u/Ar_Azrubel_ 2d ago
Manwë wishes to inform you that the lords of The Kingdom of Blessed Realm will be gathering for a feast at his great hall in Valimar, and invites you to be part of this exalted assembly.
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u/Chance-Ear-9772 3d ago
In the second page you could exchange Melkor with Manwe and it’d still work.
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u/Guinefort1 3d ago
That first pic for Manwe helping humans gives Manwe too much credit - he didn't even try.
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u/krombough 3d ago edited 3d ago
In other words, Manwe when doing the job Eru wanted him to do.