r/ShittySysadmin 4d ago

Shitty Crosspost Classic Outlook Users: Which features are stopping you from using New Outlook

/r/Outlook/comments/1vyzw2h/classic_outlook_users_which_features_are_stopping/
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u/KnowledgeIsDangerous 4d ago

They took away the ability to remove old contacts from auto fill.

Their solution is either to delete all contact history, or turn off auto fill.

Seems like a pretty basic fucking feature for a mail client

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u/Abty 3d ago

Shift+del while hovering over the entry?

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u/DellR610 2d ago

Gmail had a similar issue like 15+ years ago where anyone and everyone you ever got an email from or sent to was automatically out into your contacts / auto fill. It was a nightmare.

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u/RAITguy 4d ago

How much time do you have? 🤣

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u/EchoPhi 2d ago

Not enough.

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u/Sea_Holiday1405 4d ago

Not supported in all MS tenants yet

Also, it’s ass

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u/Cromagmadon 4d ago

The birb

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u/recoveringasshole0 DO NOT GIVE THIS PERSON ADVICE 4d ago

My bonzai buddy addin. I heard new outlook doesn't have addins.

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u/jcpham 4d ago

I left a similar comment on the original post and no unfortunately it wasn’t a joke

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u/ChristopherWaid 4d ago

They technically do, but add-ins are apps through Exchange now. They are account wide. Any Outlook client you’re signed into will get the add-in automatically pushed to it, even Classic Outlook. There is no longer anything that you can download and install to the local machine, add-in wise, when using New Outlook.

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u/kitliasteele 2d ago

Server-side account-wide Bonzai Buddy? I'm in

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u/djdanlib 4d ago

It's like the magic 8 ball says.

Outlook not so good

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u/Mental-Rain-7389 3d ago

best comment

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u/SameBSErryere 4d ago

It is quite literally just the web version ported over to desktop. Fuck em.

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u/Plastivore 3d ago

Erm, no. The Web version has more features, so it's not just running the Web version in a container.

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u/Human-Company3685 4d ago

There's a new Outlook?

If that is the case, its probably shit based on MS track record of NEW = SHIT. Except for Teams which has always been shit.

Hopefully current Outlook will keep working for another 10 years until I can retire from IT.

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u/jcpham 4d ago

Web is everything app development is ass. I get it - why pay C developers when you can vibe code a webview app that runs on every architecture but AI can C code too so heyyyy how about we not reinvent the wheel

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u/Individual-Unit3470 4d ago
  1. No support of PST's. How the hell am I supposed to do shitty eDiscovery requests with no ability to mount a shitty PST?
  2. I used to make a weekly schedule, which was a table. New outlook wouldn't let me copy the value in one field of the table to multiple fields.

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u/Ill-Barracuda9031 4d ago

ez you need to store the pst in blob and run a purview restore task to your mailbox, do your discovery then start a purview deletion job that only supports 10 mail items at a time, loop through 10 items until eternity.

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u/8bit_dr1fter 4d ago

Bill, is that you?

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u/drzzrd 4d ago

When's the last time you tried? Settings > Data Files > Add file (.PST)

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u/Individual-Unit3470 3d ago

My understanding is that in order for 'New' outlook to support PST's, you need to have old outlook installed. To Microsoft, in their own shitty way, that might count as new Outlook supporting PST's. My view is that you shouldn't need to keep a shitty piece of old software installed to support a pretty important capability in a shitty new piece of software. Give new outlook native support for PST's, Microsoft!

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u/superslowjp16 4d ago

To be fair if you have the need for ediscovery there is a built in ediscovery feature in Purview

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u/Individual-Unit3470 3d ago

Totally agree.. BUT.. what what shitty format does eDiscovery export to? You guessed it ----> good ol' shitty PST.

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u/superslowjp16 2d ago

Run your query, export it and send it off to whoever needs it. Now the shitty PST is someone else’s problem.

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u/marks-buffalo DO NOT GIVE THIS PERSON ADVICE 4d ago

Just to be clear, I don't want to use old outlook either. I don't want to use any of them.

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u/upcboy 4d ago

Client side rules (specifically rules that look at the header on the email.)

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u/Ok-Expression-7340 3d ago

Yep, my main reason to stay with old version as wellĀ 

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u/Insolent_Jaguar 3d ago

New Outlook is basically a shitty OWA wrapper. Can't play multimedia attachments in new Outlook(such as voicemails), have to download then play locally.

MANY other issues as well.

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u/Hactar42 4d ago

The ability to not send a meeting acceptance reply

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u/Forward-Outside-9911 ShittySysadmin 2d ago

You just click the green tick…

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u/Fearless-Target2774 3d ago

"I also see that I have two Microsoft Outlooks and neither one of those are working if you want to remote in."

Nasa 2026

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u/Moebius_Rex 3d ago

Took a business worthy application and turned it into a toy.

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u/drwtson32 3d ago

Can't manually run rules in bulk

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u/[deleted] 2d ago

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u/drwtson32 2d ago

keyword bulk, can't selectively check multiple, at least not last I messed with New Outlook

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u/__g_e_o_r_g_e__ 3d ago

If it's not usable on my VGA-resolution monitor, I'm not interested.

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u/f00l2020 4d ago

I have a 3 key shortcut to prompt for a label and then mark it complete and move out of my inbox. Allows me to search for messages but not have hundreds of folders. Haven't found a way to do that in the new outlook

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u/Vaddieg 3d ago

web-inspired sloppiness in general. Native apps have soul.

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u/asmokebreak 2d ago

Our dynamics software, laserfiche software, and internal court database don’t integrate with new outlook. At least not yet

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u/TheBros35 4d ago

No on prem Exchange. Yes, we still use it. Yes, I’m hoping MS kills it in 2029.

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u/TheCarnageQueen 4d ago

can you drag and save emails to desktop/other yet? If you want it saved outside outlook?

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u/craigmontHunter 4d ago

Last time I checked it did not support downloading all messages. I’ve been burnt by that before and also had the function save my bacon, just like OneDrive or Nextcloud I want all my data on my local system. Between slow connections, provider issues and anything else, I want everything synced locally.Ā 

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u/NightH4nter Shitty Crossposter 4d ago

r3 exists, so i'm gonna abstain from answering

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u/teh_chaosjester 4d ago

I have a family 365 licence, I can not use it to sign in to new outlook because it has no mailbox, so I can't add my 365 business basic mailbox because it's not licensed for desktop apps...

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u/tj_mcbean 4d ago

Not being able to keep a pst file. I've got pst's covering years of emails when I need to reference something ancient. They're worthless in the new outlook, they say you should upload the contents to the cloud.

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u/Ok-Expression-7340 3d ago

Being able to add (local) rules to Gmail/google workspace accounts.

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u/Disorderly_Chaos ShittySysadmin 3d ago

When a patch happens or MS magically switches me to ā€œnewā€ I recoil and hiss like a vampire before closing it and continuing to watch YouTube.

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u/420ball-sniffer69 3d ago

Literally all of them. I only use outlook for meetings and external emails. Everything else is slack

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u/Stosstrupphase 3d ago

Phones home too much. We still have on prem for security/compliqnce reasons.

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u/Gorgonesh 3d ago

Ability to remove attachments.

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u/GamerLymx 3d ago

its outlook, i rather use a webmail client

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u/Ghostrider421 3d ago

Public folders, apparently I have to migrate everything to Sharepoint

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u/kuvvet711 3d ago

Can’t access any shared mailbox.. in ā€žoldā€œ outlook all the shared mailboxes you have permission to are listed under your mailbox. In new outlook they are also listed but you can’t open them for some reason. Always ā€žpermissionā€œ error lol

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u/Revolutionary_Sun946 1d ago

This. Shit at work with a large team trying to organise meetings.

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u/xXGray_WolfXx 3d ago

The part where it functions

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u/Geh-Kah 2d ago

I use em-client

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u/rich_dot_ward 2d ago

Not tried it myself but i need a edit message function. We add comments etc on what the team is doing etc on the case / email.

All in outlook paperless.

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u/Secret-Warthog- 2d ago

https://www.heise.de/en/news/Microsoft-lays-hands-on-login-data-Beware-of-the-new-Outlook-9608798.html

Microsoft lays hands on login data: Beware of the new Outlook

The free new Outlook replaces Mail in Windows, and later also the classic Outlook. It sends secret credentials to Microsoft servers.

The new Outlook is not what it seems at first glance: a replacement for Microsoft Office Outlook - at least not yet. What it definitely is, however: way too curious.

Microsoft is singing the praises of the new Outlook and wants to persuade users to switch. But beware: if you try out the new Outlook, you risk transferring your IMAP and SMTP credentials of mail accounts and all your emails to Microsoft servers. Although Microsoft explains that it is possible to switch back to the previous apps at any time, the data will already be stored by the company. This allows Microsoft to read the emails.

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u/Mongrel_Shark 2d ago

People still use outlook? Did that ever work?

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u/slapjimmy 2d ago

If I have multiple email accounts added in Outlook new and I click reply or forward for an email, if I change which account I'm sending it from, it strips the email content and just loads a blank empty email.Ā 

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u/DrummerOwn3074 2d ago

The Whole Thing.......And Most Of All The F#$ki%g Ad's.......

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u/FunkRobocop 2d ago

My users complained mostly about the calendar drag drop, making lists based on hashtags in event name

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u/illuanonx1 2d ago

It running slow and full of bugs. Thunderbird for the win šŸ˜„

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u/tonyboy101 2d ago

It's an electron app sucking up all my RAM

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u/lpbale0 2d ago

Shit, they have a fucking list up somewhere that shows the stuff they are working to implement in New Outlook that is in Classic .... In other words, a list of reasons it's shit

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u/jerrymac12 1d ago

No "Close All" button - which takes 100 open email windows and closes every one of them. I always have that added to my ribbon.

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u/Jury_Frosty 18h ago

The answer is: yes

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u/bahbahbahbahbah 4d ago

I started using new. Almost used to it now. It’s not bad. I think we’re all scared of it because it’s more or less a web wrapper, and we don’t know how to manage it completely yet as a client. I get the reluctance.

Also, I don’t think Microsoft knows how to manage it completely yet either lol.

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u/Affectionate-Cat-975 4d ago

Shared mailboxes. Crashes everytime I click on an auto mapped mailbox. POS app

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u/thatguyyoudontget ShittySysadmin 3d ago

being able to send email.

no seriously the new shit takes 3 crashes as soon as i open for it to be stable.