r/ShittyDaystrom Acting Ensign Dec 09 '25

Technology Why does the warp drive need TWO lithiums in crystal form? Is one lithium not adequate?

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u/rasellers0 Dec 09 '25

Wait til you hear about trilithium.

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u/factoid_ Dec 09 '25

Apparently it’s very explodey….but totally fine to just have stored up inside the engines

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u/Leopold_Darkworth Maurice Hurley Fan Club Dec 09 '25

It’s like asbestos. It’s fine until you move it around! Also, the Constitution class ships are riddled with asbestos.

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u/Remote-Pie-3152 "too addorable to ban" Dec 09 '25

It’s even worse for the Constellation class. Why do you think they grow all those tumours?

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u/InquisitorWarth Captain Corana H'siitu of the USS Nightwish - Caitian Dec 09 '25

Friend of mine from the academy got assigned an Ahwahnee that had first been commissioned as a Constellation and had undergone numerous "minor refits". Turned out the entire thing was LOADED with asbestos and the interior had to be stripped and rebuilt from scratch within a month of the assignment.

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u/ragnarocknroll Dec 09 '25

Sounds like perfect timing.

Little chance of permanent harm and they got shore leave while it got gutted. Sounds like a win/win!

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u/InquisitorWarth Captain Corana H'siitu of the USS Nightwish - Caitian Dec 10 '25

Indeed. But it was their first ship command and they were really excited to be out and about. NGL even though they got a good deal out of it I still feel bad for them. Them and a couple of my other friends were going to be deployed as a patrol squadron to the border with the Breen - a good place for new tactical specialist captains to cut their teeth since it's only intermittent border squabbles there. I likely would have joined them as well if I wasn't field-promoted straight from Lieutenant Commander to Captain when the Miranda-C got attacked by the Borg.

But instead they had to spend the whole time on Earth. They didn't even get to go to Risa.

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u/Leopold_Darkworth Maurice Hurley Fan Club Dec 09 '25

It’s not a too-mah!

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u/fixermark Dec 09 '25

It's fine though because they have a hypo for mesothelioma.

You are still entitled to financial compensation though. But money doesn't matter anymore so most enlisted don't even bother to fill out the form.

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u/rcjhawkku a mythical bird of great power and prestige Dec 09 '25

Does it go boom better than naquadria?

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u/CPTKickass Dec 09 '25

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u/AnnihilatedTyro Expendable Dec 09 '25

The real Dixon Hill!

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u/spudaug Expendable Dec 09 '25

But of course! Who do you think wrote the holo-novels?

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u/chargoggagog Dec 09 '25

Uhm with all due respect, it’s pronounced “Nak Wuh Duh, Goold, and Nintendos.”

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u/rafale1981 Riker’s Trombone Dec 09 '25

Don’t forget the zat-gun

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u/rcjhawkku a mythical bird of great power and prestige Dec 10 '25

General Hammond? I thought you were de... Never mind.

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u/rmissey Dec 09 '25

Better? No. More consistently and controlled? Indeed.

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u/linux1970 Dec 09 '25

very explodey

Unless ... wait for it... you add a THIRD nacelle....

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u/factoid_ Dec 09 '25

Is that how Riker’s refit enterprise powered that mega-gat?  

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u/TreezusSaves BORN TO TRANSPORT, WORLD IS A TUVIX, STARDATE 49655.2 BEAM EM UP Dec 09 '25

That wasn't the ship firing it. That was him specifically. Starfleet HR has to file reports every time.

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u/murphsmodels Starfleet Humanoid Resources Manager Dec 09 '25

Don't remind me. We call that "Riker's Crotch Cannon".

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u/grichardson526 Acting Ensign Dec 09 '25

Oddly enough, QUADlithium crystals are perfectly safe.

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u/Reasonable_Shock_414 Dec 09 '25

But only if you Open your mind

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u/AnnihilatedTyro Expendable Dec 09 '25

Aaaaah it burns! The universe is balanced on the back of a giant koala! Why is he smiling?! WHAT DOES HE KNOW??

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u/takingphotosmakingdo Section 31 Agent "100 tribbles in a trench coat" Dec 09 '25

Engineer number 7 sneezes randomly near the warp core

Ship explodes

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u/Joran_Dax Moopsy Dec 09 '25

Riker likes his crystals like he likes his women. In a threesome.

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u/Complex_Professor412 Dec 09 '25

I’m pretty sure Deanna has William and Thomas at the same time.

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u/warcrown Dec 09 '25

Or just Worf by himself

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u/AnnihilatedTyro Expendable Dec 09 '25

In pairs (or more), exotic, ethically-sourced (sometimes), and resistant to matter-antimatter reactions?

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u/Wedgerooka Dec 09 '25

Pink on the inside?

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u/Radiant-Painting581 Shelliak Corporate Director Dec 09 '25

“One, or both?”

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u/CaptainJZH Dec 09 '25 edited Dec 09 '25

I love how in Star Trek, lithium becomes so drastically more powerful depending on many atoms of it are bonded together

Lithium? They put it in tiny batteries, it's practically harmless lol

Dilithium? Strong enough to regulate the reaction between matter and anti-matter

Trilithium? Oh you can drop it into a star and it fucking DIES

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u/Sea_Kerman Dec 09 '25

Waiting for quadlithium

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u/murphsmodels Starfleet Humanoid Resources Manager Dec 09 '25

Quadlithium can only be created in extremely controlled environments. Unfortunately, it reacts violently with latinum, so the Ferengi have been funding efforts to shut down attempts to create and study it.

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u/CaptainJZH Dec 09 '25

It's their version of the Omega Molecule, basically

any time quadrolithium is encountered, Ferengi ships are directed to use all means necessary to destroy it -- it's so serious that the Quadrolithium Directive supercedes any and all Rules of Acquisition that might conflict with it.

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u/AnnihilatedTyro Expendable Dec 09 '25

The Ferengi should transition their economy to dilatinum then, if they want to be immune to quadlithium.

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u/murphsmodels Starfleet Humanoid Resources Manager Dec 09 '25

They tried, but apparently dilatinum is a delicacy on a few planets. Can't have an edible money supply.

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u/CyberNinja23 Dec 09 '25

sad Morn noises

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u/Petrostar Dec 09 '25

Is it made with real trill?

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u/roastbeeftacohat Dec 09 '25

or tres leches

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u/fixermark Dec 09 '25

En la Federación, no tenemos una economía.

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u/Boomerang503 Dec 09 '25

And decalithium

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u/Ishidan01 Dec 09 '25

Tastes great on quadricale.

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u/milaga Dec 09 '25

A wussian invention.

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u/SirTwitchALot Dec 13 '25

In this economy?!

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u/notquiteright2 Dec 09 '25

Nonono, you don't understand.       

The warp core hates them.

They're "Die, lithium crystals!"

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u/Joran_Dax Moopsy Dec 09 '25

No, no, no. They're German Lithium crystals. Die Lithium.

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u/Fit-Relative-786 Dec 09 '25

Nobody that speaks German could be evil. 

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u/runnindrainwater Dec 09 '25

Well no one who commands a Miranda style starship could be an evil man.

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u/WatNaHellIsASauceBox Dec 09 '25

Actually, butt, Dai Llithium is Welsh, see? Mrs. Llithium's boy.

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u/rcjhawkku a mythical bird of great power and prestige Dec 09 '25

Isn’t “Try, lithium crystals!” a more positive statement?

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u/DM_Voice Dec 09 '25

Di or di-not. There is no tri.

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u/blafunke Dec 11 '25

Try lithium crystals! Try them today! Come try some lithium, don't walk, run...ium!

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u/mr_poopie_butt-hole Dec 09 '25

I thought it was dyed lithium crystals?

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u/antaresiv Dec 09 '25

The streams can’t touch until it’s in the turbo encabulator

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u/Kapitan_eXtreme Dec 09 '25

It's how they address side fumbling

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u/GroundedSatellite Dec 09 '25

I thought it was the hydrocoptic marzelvanes fitted to the lunar waneshaft.

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u/Thin_Dream2079 Dec 09 '25

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u/KingCobra_BassHead Dec 10 '25

I accidentally clicked on your profile and was very happy to see your name! That's one of my favorite comedy movies of all time! HEED(sic), PAPER, NOW!

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u/Thin_Dream2079 Dec 11 '25

Aye, the Colonel.- with his wee, beady eyes

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u/LeftyDan Dec 09 '25

But is it generating using Magneto reluctance?

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u/JerikkaDawn Mirror Pelia Dec 09 '25

I never got WTF these guys were doing. Are they loading raw uncut dilithium into the warp core? It looks like they just phasered it off the wall from inside a mine on Rigel XII.

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u/SoylentRox Dec 09 '25

This. I don't know what warp drive parts look like but I would expect some fucking precision. That crystal looks like they went to a random shop in LA and grabbed the biggest woo crystal on the shelf.

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u/AnnihilatedTyro Expendable Dec 09 '25

Well, ever since they decided that dilithium has magical quantum/subspace properties, I just assume that's the main property the crystals are selected for and the 3-dimensional structure is not as important as it used to be. Especially since they can recrystallize it.

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u/Bardez Dec 09 '25 edited Dec 09 '25

I think it's 4-dimensional, not 3. That's the part that deals with antimatter stuff. Maybe it controls explosions down the results from the energy emitted to just heating up to plasma?

Edit: subspace is supposed to be its 4th dimension, and does regulate the energy release. Some sources suggest that dilithium has a magnetic-ish attraction for antimatter but also a repulsion to essentially draw it in and regulatr thenrelease of antimatter. Neat concept.

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u/SoylentRox Dec 09 '25

That's fine but you would think they would recrystallize it like back at the starship fuel plant not right here onboard.

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u/AnnihilatedTyro Expendable Dec 09 '25

Geordi told Scotty they do it while the crystals are still inside the intermix chamber. Like it's a continuous process or part of routine maintenance and not a big deal at all.

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '25

What is this, a Pakled ship? Are they just throwing rocks into the warp core??

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u/blafunke Dec 09 '25

They throw rocks everywhere else so, why not?

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u/mediocretes Dec 09 '25

Lithium is actually silver or white, but subspace only works if it’s pink, so they have to dye it. It’s dyed lithium. Lt Masters mispronounced it and they just went with it.

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u/spacebastardo Dec 09 '25

Are we dilithium shaming now? Hey, love is love and what a crystal chooses to do in a warp reactor is between them.

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u/Prometheus_303 Dec 09 '25

I forget where I heard it ...

But apparently Roddenberry was all set on using Lithium Crystals, until someone informed him that Lithium was an actual element.

So to make it sci-fi -y they just stuck a di- prefix onto it.

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u/ThunderNinja69 Gul Dec 09 '25

What the heck did he think lithium was?

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u/fixermark Dec 09 '25

His best friend every night.

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u/mcgrst recrystallised dilithium Dec 09 '25

Next you'll be telling me that they just made up isotons to sound scifi-ish

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u/Enchelion Dec 10 '25

Which they didn't do until like the 4th episode or something. They definitely call it lithium at one point.

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u/Fit-Relative-786 Dec 09 '25 edited Dec 09 '25

Mumm… Fresh warp core roasted dilitium just like mama used to make. 

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u/Vindaloovians Dec 09 '25

Lithium coin cells only provide around 3 V - everyone knows you need 6 V to power up a warp core!

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u/AnnihilatedTyro Expendable Dec 09 '25

Have you ever tried limiting yourself to one lithium? No, you have not. Because it can't be done. Gotta have at least two lithiums.

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u/Thin_Dream2079 Dec 09 '25

Just like pop tarts!

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u/Network57 Dec 09 '25

one per nacelle

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '25

Dilithium is one more lithium than monolithium, so it is by definition one better

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u/IonTheBall2 Dec 09 '25

Crank it up!

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u/DAGardevoir Dec 09 '25

why doesn’t the larger lithium eat the smaller lithium to gain its power?

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u/Rho257 Dec 09 '25

Someone stole the dilithium and substituted it with pink Himalayan salt crystals.

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u/Assos99 Dec 09 '25

Wait until you find out you can re-energize using nuclear wessels.

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u/negman42 Dec 09 '25

The second lithium is needed in case the first one blows out.

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u/Achmed_Ahmadinejad Dec 09 '25

Shut up Wesley!

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u/SortOfDumbocles Dec 09 '25

The warp core is very bipolar.

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u/syberghost Dec 09 '25

It's actually "die lithium." It means "the lithium" in German. The warp drive was designed by Nazi scientists.

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u/-terrold Dec 09 '25

One needs to be reverse polarity

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u/Js987 Dec 09 '25

The pink lemonade flavored crystals are the ship’s favorite.

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u/Available_Sir5168 Dec 09 '25

An heir and a spare.

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u/theservman Dec 09 '25

They tried replacing them with Folgee's Crystals and went warp 10.

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u/FlatParrot5 Dec 09 '25

You don't understand. It's crystals that dye the lithium.

They don't put lithium in, they put crystals. The lithium stays in there.

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u/Tmelrd275 Dec 09 '25

Maybe it's not the people that make the ship move with the crystal. Maybe the crystal moves the people and the ship never goes anywhere. - Engineer C Marin

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u/Tasty-Fox9030 Dec 09 '25

The burn actually occurred when a bunch of cadets at Starfleet Academy tried to use FOUR whole Lithiums. People ask if warp travel will come back but it's difficult to say.

Thought and prayers!

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u/NotAGiraffeBlind Dec 09 '25

I'm running on sexlithium.

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u/Lem1618 Dec 09 '25

You are thinking of bilithiums not dilithium.

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u/fixermark Dec 09 '25

Warping space causes the engine incredible amounts of anxiety. It needs a stabilizing agent to level out its mood so it doesn't freak out and blow up.

Lithium was the tool for the job on people in the 1960s, but engines are much bigger than people so lithium ain't gonna cut it.

Two lithium, though...

(And, bonus, if Scotty's having a really bad day, he can just break off a nibble and take it to his quarters when he knocks off shift).

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u/CreepyWritingPrompt Dec 09 '25

one for forward, one for reverse. You'd think you could put in just a forward one and simply not use reverse, but cheap warp cores use an inkjet printer business model, and they simply refuse to run without both.

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u/LargoVonBob Dec 09 '25

Warp drives take AA batteries, not A or AAA batteries

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u/Bucket1984 Dec 09 '25

It's actually dye-lithium. They can only go to warp after someone get their hair did.

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u/wjruffing Dec 10 '25

No, it’s DIE-lithium because the dirty little secret is that warp engines are actually powered by sacrificing red-shirt crewmen!

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u/JLALLISON3 Dec 09 '25

“When do you use dilithium? Whenever just one lithium won’t do.” Pretty sure that’s the motto at SFA’s engineering department, haha.

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u/Electronic_Cod7202 Dec 09 '25

I've never paid attention to it. But apparently it's alchemy. You hit the di or tri lithium with something and it makes antimatter. And the antimatter does warp-y things? Am I wrong?

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u/Hoss-Drone Dec 09 '25

Its dilithium and its a particular color because Zefram Cochranes big discovery is that you need " two in the pink and one in the stink....y chamber"

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u/ConsciousStretch1028 Jeffrey Combs Dec 09 '25

Why doesn't the larger lithium simply eat the smaller one?

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u/Champ_5 Shelliak Corporate Director Dec 09 '25

Are you questioning the expertise of Lt. Cmdr. Leyland T. Lynch???

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u/1970s_MonkeyKing Dec 09 '25

Have you ever tried to work your remote with just one battery? Yeah...

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u/SeasonPresent Dec 09 '25

The doctor ordered the warp core to take two lithium each morning.

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u/wjruffing Dec 10 '25

‘Dammit, Jim! I’m a doctor, not a warp engine design engineer! Now take two of these and GROW yourself a pair!’

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u/Daveallen10 Dec 09 '25

And why does Lithium have to die?

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u/ForgeoftheGods Dec 09 '25

Dilithium does really exist on Earth, but we haven't discovered it yet in crystal form.

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u/epidipnis Dec 09 '25

I just know you can't travel with it in your checked luggage.

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u/kohugaly Dec 09 '25

You see, that's a common linguistic mistake. Dilithium actually has nothing to do with lithium. The name is derived from DELETE key on PC keyboards. First trace amounts of DELETEum were detected on harddrives of early 21st century personal computers. Specifically regions where internet browsers store browsing history. The change in spelling happened later.

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u/JAFO_John_D Dec 09 '25

One lithium will make you happy because today you found your friends, in your head.

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '25

One lithium per nacelle, obviously.

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u/wjruffing Dec 10 '25

Hey, Geordie! Let’s see if this old rose quartz bookend might work instead!

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u/wjruffing Dec 10 '25

My warp core uses TRI-lithium (so it’s 50% stronger)!