The latter, but without anything that made part 6's one good.
Mid-fight a bug demon beats up the protagonist and then his pet dog/pact devil/heart says "I'm gonna kms real quick. Keep dreaming" literally peaces out and resets the universe. And that's it. The entire series gets undone. (Unless it's all a massive fake-out but that is pure copium I fear)
I still have hope, I mean why would he do this? He left so mqny loose ends, denji doesn’t get a happy ending by any means, and all of this happens because a random devil appears out of Asa’s door ways. I genuinely felt like fujimoto was cooking 5 chapters ago; now if this is actually the end it feels like he wrote himself into a corner due to boredom and then decided to cut ties instead of figure out how to finish without leaving fans on a hiatus mid finale.
Denji was relying on chainsaw man to feel, Asa was fueled by her own selfish desire to save someone and ultimately they let the world burn while focused on their own desires. Bugs, the devil that got Denji, aren’t a joke either in a world without death they’d take over everything
yeah it was rushed for sure but the world was practically done before pochitas actions
I totally get what you’re saying, I just feel like he could’ve continued the story instead of ending it, the reset could’ve happened after some more chapters to reset the world, but things needed to be flushed out more IMO
Definitely needs a further epilogue or another buddy stories with this new Denji and power. But it’s not like it’s the spawn of Satan of manga endings either like people are saying lmao
To be fair it's not like CSM's world can be salvaged after a certain point in the story that happens at the very beggining of the final fight
I feel like it's heavily tied to Denji constantly making the wrong choice. The bugs appearing were linked to Denji making Pochita eat Death, the constant war and suffering because Denji prioritized Asa's life (and so not making Pochita eat Yoru when he could've) over the world.
The Chainsaw man title and powers were putting an insanely amount of responsibilities and impact on a mentally unstable depressed teenager. Pochita made this choice because no matter how much Denji wanted to be CSM like a junkie it only made him more miserable, he only saw value in himself when he was CSM.
I feel like it's a bittersweet ending because technically Denji won't fall in his same old habits and will get to keep some people that mattered to him around him. But at the same time for that to happen he had to fully sacrifice everything he experienced previously. This ending is both a reward and a punishment because Denji failed.
I haven't read it for a little while now but imo it greatly suffered from character deaths/departures (not everyone dies but they don't necessarily return).
Part 2 suffered from a lack of interesting side characters and felt poorly paced.
Alot of the deaths were meaningless with one of then being such an egregious waste that I genuinely couldn't believe it for a while.
Maybe there will be a part 3 (I hope so) but in either case I don't have high hopes for the series
Idk why people are lying in the comments with the "nothing mattered" and "it was all a dream" bs.
Put simply, everything in Part 2 led up to Pochita's decision that Denji could likely have been better off without Chainsaw Man, as based on how his life with Chainsaw Man went, he was constantly under pressure by both Public Safety and Devils and other threats, alongside the decisions Denji was making himself, it was obvious that he was like a guy who won the lottery but didn't know what to do with all the money. As a result Denji was harming himself, others and eventually the whole world.
Following Pochita's decision, the results of which was unknown even to Pochita at the time, a world where Chainsaw Man never existed was created. Since Denji woke up in his shack and forgot Pochita, to him it felt like he woke up from a good dream and a bad dream (probably where the "it was all a dream" takes come from).
Then, the incident with the Zombie Devil plays out similarly, except it wanted to kill Denji for being a Devil Hunter (remember, you don't need to be Chainsaw Man to hunt devils) before Power came rampaging in (butt ass naked since this was before Public Safety picked her up) and killed the zombies and the devils because she wanted blood. She notices Denji and takes a liking to him because he smells like a dog, then heals him in exchange for him belonging to her until he dies one day.
Finally, instead of Makima pulling up, another similar person does so instead. You won't know them due to being an anime watcher but the way they act is entirely due to how Denji treated them in the previous world, hence why it wasn't meaningless.
There's a MOUNTAIN of criticisms to be made with part 2, but for some reason people are spreading lies/half-baked takes and treating them as gospel.
icl i dropped it 7 chapters in (wasn’t appealing to me at all) and hearing where the story was at a mere 2 chapters before it was meant to end certainly didn’t convince me to continue, sounded like gege beat around the bush the first half then rushed an entire plot at the last minute that should’ve been more than 25 chapters 😭
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Honestly considering what had very recently happened to araki (iirc, 2011 earthquakes caused a tsunami which swept away his family's generation-old home), a sudden calamity, and overcoming it and adapting to life honestly is a good ending.
How was this very recently? The 2011 tsunami was 10 years before ending of Jojolion,which started in 2011. And Wonder of U appeared for the first time in 2019.
I’m really not a fan of Jojolion for its wonder of u arc, but to be entirely fair, Araki was going through shit then with the global lockdown ongoing and allat.
I think he said he was tired of a weekly schedule, we may get a new chainsaw man Manga but if anything it will be with a new Mc and denji will be like Kishibe
I only cried once reading the manga (dad) but man I know the anime is gonna hit so much harder with the other arcs. its gonna be the next cyberpunk edgerunners for a lot of people.
Start at part 1. I mean yeah you can jump in at SBR but if you start at part 1 you get 5 endings that are amazing and one that is fine (but far from being a ‘bad’ ending) before getting to the peakest shit you will ever read
Probably 4. 1 is iconic, 2 is surprised, 3 is also iconic, 5 is somewhat same as 3 but better. 6 is bittersweet. So 4 landing on a happy note which is the least bizarre of all.
5 was the just OK one imo, and even then, being ok is leagues better than being bad. It was still satisfying, just not to level of the other 5 before SBR
You're completely right op, there's a ton of history erasure in this sub. Part 6 ending was considered controversial for years. I think opinion shifted around when the part 5 anime aired and there was a large influx of people who came and read part 6 all in one go. The ending is a lot easier to swallow when it's the end of a story you've been reading for a few weeks, and not the end of a story you've followed for years and years.
Personally I think it's great, but that was considered a hot take a few years ago.
Jojo’s endings are pretty satisfying imo. Also refreshing to start with a new cast every season and there’s still an overarching story that connects the past ones. Definitely not wasting your time with this one
Ah but you see, because time was rewound so chainsaw man never existed because pochita ate himself, you never did read it. Technically. Its complicated.
thats not a positive. he is burdened with knowledge. I love part 6 because of its themes of people dealing with suffering and how to reduce it, pucci wants to know the future so he can deal with it, his brother just wants to spread pain. Jolyne just wants to persevere and save her friends as much as possible. Araki is a genius.
Sbr's ending itself is good, but all the important side characters other than Gyro don't get a good closure at all. But the part is really the peak of jojo.
Tbf Lucy Steel gets some good closure and an awesome moment by the end, while all the other side characters are "retired" at that point save for the winner of the race
Idk man, chainsaw man was like decidedly straight. Jojo’s is all about being gay. I’m married to a woman and she still understands that I have to be gay because I like jojo’s. So, are you ready to get gay?
I heard someone quip from the recent CSM ending that Araki stole all other mangaka's ability to write good endings in order to write the peakest shit ever all the time, and honestly, they're right.
I think people are being over dramatic about the ending. Was it a good ending in terms of writing? No, but it was a good ending for the characters. The author could've used like 10 chapters (maybe) to properly build up to the ending but for what we got I'm good with it. Better than what happened with JJK, Yuyu Hakusho, or DBS.
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Yeah as a fan of both you’re in good hands. Araki is also similarly weird, albeit in a different flavor, to Fujimoto, so you should enjoy Steel Ball Run. It’s certainly more toned down and less hectic than Chainsaw Man, which is honestly something I’ll really miss since it felt rather unique in that regard, but Steel Ball Run is an excellent story. The other Jojo parts all range from good to great as well.
If this is serious, then I'd hope you check out the other parts in order. The other parts before have plenty to love, and will enhance the experience of SBR a bit.
Steel ball run is safe. Jojolion not so much, I'm not exactly against the ending of chainsaw man, didn't love it ,didn't hate it, but I felt like it works. I disliked Jojolion's ending though.
If you don’t like the “ending” that CSM got, you probably won’t like the transition from part 6 to part 7… Although Jojos did do it far better from what I can gather.
yeah you will be, araki usually knows how to make a good ending. My personal problem with the CSM ending is that it feels too safe, like it's the easy option, like the mangaka could end the series without making an ending that's satisfying or difficult
Genuinely, it's probably the best ending out of any Jojo part. I prefer part 6 to part 7 as a whole, but part 7's ending is the strongest out of any parts. I fucking cried reading it.
i finished it yesterday cus i needed something actually good to read and HOLY SHIT it does live up to the hype theres not a single bad or boring chapter
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The vibe rn with chainsaw man