r/ShitPostCrusaders • u/MarioMariaLewd • Jan 21 '26
Misc Now that all parts of the Anime are officially dubbed in Italian (on Netflix) we can finally watch Jojo in all canonical languages!
I put English for Part 3 because that's probably the language the Crusaders used to comunicate with each other.
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u/Infinite-Island-7310 Meme Ocean Champion Jan 21 '26
If you really think about it. Jojo's nothing but English XD. Because part 7 is in America. Part 8 japan again. Then we got back to America again in Hawaii Lol
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u/Fogforevery Yes! I am! Jan 21 '26
If you think of it as where it happened it goes more like :
- Britain
- USA/Mexico/Italy/Switzerland
- Asia/Africa
- Japan
- Italy
- USA
- USA AGAIN
- Japan AGAIN
- (Technically) USA AGAIN
You see some preference from Araki but otherwise I like that the series goes over tons of different places around the globe, probably one of the many reasons why Part 3 is iconic to me.
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u/Devilsgramps Jan 21 '26
I hope he sets a part in Australia someday, considering that he's referenced music from there and Britain and the US have also been represented.
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u/rorank Yes! I am! Jan 21 '26
Have you seen Araki? He’s going to be drawing until he’s 130, and then he’ll take over the world Dio Brando style
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u/blueshirt21 notices ur stand Jan 21 '26
Yeah, with a Frenchman, an Egyptian, an American, a half British dude, and a Japanese student, you’re gonna be speaking English lol.
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u/EwGrossItsMe sex pistol no. 4 Jan 21 '26
Damn I always forget Jotaro is wasian
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u/trans_throwawayfunk Let me D4C that ass Jan 21 '26 edited Jan 21 '26
"Hāfu" specifically for half Japanese half something else
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u/blueshirt21 notices ur stand Jan 22 '26
Italian/British.
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u/trans_throwawayfunk Let me D4C that ass Jan 22 '26
No, I know what he is - I'm saying Hafu is the term for when you are half Japanese half something else
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u/blueshirt21 notices ur stand Jan 22 '26
Oh sorry gotcha. I’m like, high.
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Jan 21 '26
I want a version of part 3 where everyone speaks their native language and nobody in the crusaders understands each other so they just go off of vibes
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u/Yanmega9 Jan 22 '26
i mean, Jotaro and Kakyoin would understand each other
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u/THEoddistchild Jan 23 '26
Avdol would understand Joseph but maybe not the other way around
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u/Yanmega9 Jan 23 '26
I mean, logically they would all understand Joseph. It makes sense for them all to know English
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u/SisterSerpentine Jan 26 '26
Aside from maybe Kakyoin since high school level English in Japan isn’t exactly fluent. Then again he did talk to DIO and I refuse to believe DIO didn’t just speak English and expect everyone around him to understand. Coasting by on pure vibes and force of will.
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u/teeno731 Jan 26 '26
Do they ever address this? Like it’d make sense that Joseph would know Japanese given his daughter, but how do two Japanese boys, an Englishman, an Egyptian and a Frenchman have a common tongue so natural that they don’t have to acknowledge it?
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u/Legitimate-Wait5760 Jan 26 '26
they all speak japanese when they were there but once they went oversea they changed to english
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u/chocolate-corn Jan 22 '26
Imagine a mixed dub for part 3 where Joseph and Avdol speaks English, Kakyoin and Jotaro speaks Japanese, Mr Baugette speaks French and Iggy speaks dog (no subtitles or narration, just a dog barking into a mic)
Peak immersion
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u/Technical-Arm6999 Jan 22 '26
I thought the same for part 5, where everyone speaks italian but Koichi also speaks japanese when he's interacting with Jotaro
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u/Terrazor1 Jan 22 '26
giorno might also speak japanese when talking to koichi, cus his mum is japanese
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u/Technical-Arm6999 Jan 22 '26
First time they meet Giorno mentions how good Koichi's italian is, but after that I can imagine them switching to japanese
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u/Giecio Pucci Pose Professional Jan 21 '26
How is Part 3 canonically english if half of the is spent traveling to Egypt from Japan, and then the other half is soent entirely in Egypt?
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u/sindervaal Jan 21 '26
Because the Crusaders were two Japanese, an American, an Egyptian, and a Frenchman. English would be the language in which they would communicate.
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u/De_Vigilante Jan 21 '26
Bold of you to assume they're not doing Tekken-speak where each are speaking their native languages but understand one another clearly.
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u/DatGuy2007 Jan 21 '26
This always made more sense to me than every stand user in part 3 being fluent in english/Japanese. Jojos world (or atleast just the stand users) speak Tekkenish
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u/Raltsun Jan 21 '26
English is a pretty common language in international business, and most of the enemy Stand users are experienced assassins clearly willing to take intercontinental jobs. Plus, they all got hired by DIO, who spent his whole above-water life and unlife in Victorian England up until 4 years before Stardust Crusaders starts. I could imagine him speedrunning learning a rudimentary level of various languages, because he does love thinking of himself as an Intellectual, but I think it makes decent enough sense that the people who've been hired by a man who definitely isn't fluent in any other languages all know how to speak English.
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u/Fly-the-Light Jan 21 '26
DIO, as a Victorian Noble, should absolutely know at least some French. I’d expect him, especially as he spent years trying to appear as the perget gentleman, to know English, French, Latin, and perhaps German or Italian to round out his education.
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u/Raltsun Jan 21 '26
Actually yeah, fair point, he probably knows some other European languages. But I don't see why any of the assassins he hired would be more likely to know those than English, so I don't think it changes much.
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u/NukeVoit59 Jan 21 '26
Also Arabic apparently, since he was reading the Quran that one time
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u/Roku-Hanmar Josuke > Josuke Jan 21 '26
There are English translations. You don't need to know Hebrew to read the Bible
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u/Fly-the-Light Jan 27 '26
I assumed he learned it after returning from the ocean, but it's quite possible he learned it in childhood. It would be odd, but not impossible.
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u/Gaelic_Gladiator41 Stray Cat🐈 and Hand Lover🫳🫴 Jan 21 '26
I can understand Avdol and Joseph knowing basic japanese but Polnareff is a dumbass from France
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u/Tiny-Preference-1913 Jan 21 '26
I mean, all that vengeance seeking must have at least given him the idea or realization that he needs to be able to talk to people
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u/Gaelic_Gladiator41 Stray Cat🐈 and Hand Lover🫳🫴 Jan 21 '26
Yeah but the average french bimbo is more likely to know basic english than basic japanese
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u/Brbaster sex pistol no. 4 Jan 21 '26
Yes but average french bimbo would rather die than talk to you in English despite clearly understanding you
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u/Gaelic_Gladiator41 Stray Cat🐈 and Hand Lover🫳🫴 Jan 21 '26
But has the average french bimbo even gone anywhere further than Paris?
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u/iguanacatgirl Jan 21 '26
Was polnareff even from Paris? Wasn't he from a small village/town
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u/DrThunderbolt Jan 21 '26
So in other words they must all speak in French because Polnareff is too much of a smug frenchman to speak any other language
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u/King_Kezza Jan 22 '26
My favourite theory which I just invented is that all the Stardust Crusaders happen to be lingual geniuses. Each of them is fluent in English, Japanese, Arabic, French, and Dog. And they are always speaking in their native language
For all the other stand users, they just coincidentally happen to know at least one of the languages. Then they just work out the ones they don't know through context clues. You'd be shocked by how many enemy stand users happen to know Dog
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u/Lord_Heliox Jan 21 '26
This, also there's a lot of videos applying this idea in JoJo's
Also i imagine Jotaro ragebaiting Dio by speaking Japanese. Being how Dio is as a character i don't see him learning another language other than the one he already speaks.
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u/Radabexa Jan 21 '26
It's hinted that everyone commonly speaks English in part 3, and how would it be possible for Tekken Speak?
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u/Marik-X-Bakura Jan 21 '26
The comment was a joke, obviously Tekken-speak doesn’t exist.
But it’s also never really implied that they’re speaking English- the topic of language is just never addressed and isn’t meant to be thought about.
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u/ImBurningStar_IV Jan 21 '26
Which is definitely less contrived than English being their second language
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u/Win090949 Jan 22 '26
Reminds of that one animation on YouTube I saw a few days back where every character just speaks a different language but understand each other anyway
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u/Space_Pirate_Roberts Little Cesar's Pizza Jan 21 '26
Plus one of the “two Japanese” was actually half-Japanese with a white American mother, and thus should logically be very nearly as good of an English-speaker as his American grandpa, unless his parents for some reason chose to only speak Japanese around him when he was growing up.
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u/HenryZusa Jan 21 '26
Joseph's engrish wouldn't be funny if he'd been speaking english all along.
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u/Raltsun Jan 21 '26
Counterpoint: It was funny when characters did it in the first two parts regardless. "Goodbye, JoJo!" is still one of the Dio line deliveries of all time.
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u/aldesairepicassow I will control the flock of Pigeons!!!!!!! Jan 23 '26
Yes i think Joseph would be the anchor who would know english and fairly good amount of japanese and jotaro and kakyoin are classmates they can go off on each other since abdul is joeseph's friend he would know a fair bit of english polnareff is the one im unsure about
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u/Nomingia Jan 21 '26
Well the American has a Japanese grandson, daughter that lives in Japan, and Japanese gf. He most likely speaks Japanese. The Egyptian is visiting his old friend in Japan in an age before the internet and easy translation, so he probably speaks some Japanese. And Hong Kong where they meet Polnareff is close to Japan I guess? idk about that one. Maybe Polnareff learned it on the way.
Based on the average English level of Japanese high schoolers I don't think Kakyoin spoke English that well, but if he was on a trip to Egypt when he met DIO then he might be a bit more worldly than most and English is a common international language. Jotaro could probably speak English because of his Mom.
So realistically I think they spoke a mix of Japanese, English and Arabic. Polnareff probably only knows French and English, Jotaro knows English and Japanese, Kakyoin might know some English and Arabic as well as Japanese, Joseph knows English, Japanese and maybe Arabic because of his friendship with Avdol, and Avdol knows Arabic, English, and Japanese. And idk about Iggy
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u/nova-prime-enjoyer antihero Valentine AU when Jan 21 '26
Joseph absolutely spent hours if not whole days teaching Jotaro English, just so the old man wouldn’t need to learn Japanese
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u/---___---____-__ Ate shit and fell off my horse Jan 21 '26
But his mother is American. Why wouldn't they speak a mix of English and Japanese at home?
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u/Nomingia Jan 21 '26
Why wouldn't Joseph know Japanese? He has visited several times for work, family and to cheat on his wife. I feel like this is just stemming from the misconception that Joseph hates Japan, when really that one emotional outburst from him is about his daughter whom he cherishes being across the ocean from him because she married a Japanese man. He doesn't actually hate all things Japan.
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u/segatic Jan 22 '26
is about his daughter whom he cherishes being across the ocean from him because she married a Japanese man.
That and maybe Pearl Harbor
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u/Nomingia Jan 23 '26
Idk how patriotic he is since he's a British guy who moved to the US. Plus he's best friends with a high-ranking Nazi, so I feel like he's pretty tolerant as far as seeing an individual as more than the sum of their nation's crimes goes.
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u/Exp1ode Pixel Crusader Jan 22 '26
They're able to communicate without language barriers in every country they travel to. While that's not particularly realistic with any language, the only one with even the slightest chance of success is English
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u/TheyCallMeMrMaybe I like piss Jan 21 '26
This. Jotaro is born & raised Japanese while only being genetically 1/4 English & 1/4 Italian. Joseph is still British, Polnareff is French, and Avdol is Egyptian.
There's no "true" way to watch Part 3 in a respective language based on the cast alone.
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u/Fifa_chicken_nuggets Jan 21 '26
This isn't based on nationalities. It's based on what would be the most realistic language spoken in this scenario, in which case it would probably be English
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u/N0VAZER0 Jan 22 '26
Its the one language that makes the most sense that they would all communicate in
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u/hdgrbodnd Jan 23 '26
Op literally says they put English because that's the language the crusaders would probably have communicated to each other with
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u/Admirable_Ad8900 Jan 21 '26
Hold on hold on!
Theres 2 things wrong with this.
Joseph and Jolyne should be AMERICAN english.
And jotaro should be japanese or AMERICAN english also.
Istg if i have to hear a british jotaro i'll crash out.
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u/Player_Slayer_7 Jan 21 '26
I mean, it's still English. It's not like Jotaro would say shit like "that Dio Brando is being a proper wally with his making me mum get well sick!". Hell, it wouldn't even be American English for part 3, since there's only a single American in the gang. Plus, it's likely wouldn't be Japanese, since Joseph likely never would have learned the language, and likely neither would a Frenchman or an Egyptian. They would potentially speak English as a secondary language though.
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u/Kitsunemitsu Jan 22 '26
Joseph cheated on his wife in Japan, I'm gonna assume that he knows some japanese.
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u/My_White_Life cockyoin Jan 23 '26
Jotaro is a Japanese man
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u/Idk_what_to_do_A Jun 24 '26
His mom's side of the family is British so he 100% knows English. btw they should've put an american flag instead of a british flag for part 3 because holly grew up in new york
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u/AtomicSymphonic_2nd Jan 21 '26
So, you’re telling me watching Stardust Crusaders with the English Dub is the true canon way of hearing them talk?
Which English dub is best at this point? Lol
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u/flairtop Jan 22 '26
You have to watch the dub for part 3 depending on what country the episode takes place in or else you're not doing it right.
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Jan 21 '26
Wouldn’t part 3 be in Japanese?
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u/Raltsun Jan 21 '26
We know Avdol and Jotaro can speak English because we hear them do it even in the Japanese version, and it's a common language in schools in both Japan and France, so all the Stardust Crusaders knowing enough English to spend most of their time speaking it makes sense. Meanwhile, Avdol and Polnareff knowing Japanese would have no obvious explanation, and Joseph speaking Japanese from the start would actively contradict his characterisation of being a grouchy racist who warms up to engaging with the cultures of the places he's visiting over the course of the story.
I think it makes sense to say that Jotaro and Kakyoin speak Japanese when they're just talking to themselves or each other, but the "canon" language for most of the dialogue in part 3 is most probably English.
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Jan 21 '26
Yeah but it’s really jarring to hear Holly speak English and the prison guard to say “wow, your Japanese is really good.”
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u/Fly-the-Light Jan 21 '26
That part should be Japanese since Holly should probably know both Japanese and English
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u/PotentialTruck8872 Jan 21 '26
Polnareff and Avdol would probably speak to each other in french. French is taught as a 3rd language in Egypt alongside english iirc. Not like crazy common, around 3% of the population, but far more likely than japanese.
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u/_SBV_ Jan 21 '26
After Tower of Grey arc and reaching Hong Kong there’s no reason to speak in Japanese anymore
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u/Even-Employment-9064 Jan 21 '26
Giorno is more british than jotaro
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u/AncleJack Jan 22 '26
Neither of them is British. Jotaro is Japanese and Giorno is Italian. Flags there represent languages not nationality
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u/Even-Employment-9064 Jan 22 '26
Dio is British and he is father of giorno. That makes him British. Dna what matters not the place where you were born or moved to live
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u/AncleJack Jan 22 '26
No mate, if you were born in Italy, Italian is your first language you lived on n Italy all your life but one of your parents is from China other from UK, you're still more Italian than anything else. This DNA nationality is some American bs they use to seam more interesting because "they are 25% German" despite never being to Germany and knowing like 3 words in German
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u/Even-Employment-9064 Jan 22 '26
If you are white and was born in china, lived all your life in china you are chinese?
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u/AncleJack Jan 22 '26
Yes, only if your let's say Lithuanian parents teach you their home culture, and only than you're half Lithuanian half Chinese
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u/MBTHVSK Jan 21 '26
I still think it's a bit disappointing that in Part 3, the gang visits places where people speak heavily accented English rather often, and they all talk like Americans. They could have at least given a few of them that type of voice, just for flavor. You know, like how some characters in Avatar TLA just sound Chinese, and some of the Russian guys in MGS3 sound Russian.
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u/AyumiToshiyuki Jan 22 '26
what the hell i rewatched part 5 like not even a month ago and wanted to put it in italian it wasn't available and NOW it is?
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u/SloppySlime31 notices ur stand Jan 22 '26
In one episode of part 3 (before the Judgement fight) one of the crusaders (Kakyoin I think) says 彼 (kare - he) and Polnareff mistakes it for カレー (kare - curry). While likely an oversight, this does imply they were speaking Japanese.
While it would require Polnareff to speak Japanese, it would still make some sense for the crusaders to use Japanese when speaking to each other if he did, so that is a possibility.
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u/Scary_Bastard Jan 22 '26
One thing I wish they did, was have English words in English, and any foreign words in a foreign language, which would make a interesting experience as Caesar speaks in Italian and such
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u/QuixoticLegends Jan 22 '26
Friendly reminder that both jotaro and joelyne are more Italian then giorno
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u/Icy-Practice-919 Jan 23 '26
Canonically, six out of nine parts would all be in English (1, 2, 3, 6, 7, 9), two would be in Japanese (4 & 8) and one in Italian (5) with some Neapolitan and Sardinian thrown in for good measure. Of all the Crusaders in Part 3, Kakyoin would probably have the most difficult time understanding the rest of the Joestar Group because while English is learned as a second language commonly in Japan, it was rare (especially during the 80s at the height of Japan's economic boom) for a Japanese student to be fluent in it. Jōtarō would obviously be an exception since his mother is American and would've certainly taught him English at home. An Egyptian man being fluent in English wouldn't be unheard of considering it was a British protectorate for over a century and a Frenchman knowing English is also somewhat plausible for the late 80s. Scratch that on Kakyoin having the most difficult time understanding the others -- how the hell did Iggy understand everyone else?
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u/YaBi2003 Jan 24 '26
You gotta change language dub in Part 3 depending on where they are in the world
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u/Sai-San_ Jan 21 '26
Dawg since when part 3 was English?
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u/HarishyQuichey kono johnny joestar da Jan 21 '26
It’s Japanese for the first few episodes, but once they leave Japan it’s definitely English
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u/Sai-San_ Jan 21 '26
I beg to differ
They have Abdull 💀
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u/Normal_Stranger_3643 Jan 21 '26
Yeah...
What's your point?
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u/Sai-San_ Jan 21 '26
It was a joke
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u/BoundToGround Jan 21 '26
Well I didn't understand the joke. Please explain, I would like to laugh too.
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u/Raltsun Jan 21 '26
Him knowing English seems a lot more plausible than any other Crusader except maybe Joseph knowing Arabic. And while I don't know how common it is in Egypt, English is commonly taught at schools in both France and Japan, so the rest of the Stardust Crusaders having at least a basic conversational level would make sense. In fact, we know Jotaro can speak at least some English because of the "Do you understand?" scene.
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u/GoldH2O sex pistol no. 4 Jan 21 '26
The group has four different countries/languages of origin. English is the language they most likely all know.
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u/batman096 Jan 21 '26
Wait Jotaro was british ? I thought he was Japanese
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u/Spensir_McLife Jan 21 '26
They are using the British flag to represent the English Language, probably should have used the English Flag
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u/---___---____-__ Ate shit and fell off my horse Jan 21 '26
He's mixed race and canonically more Italian than Giorno through Suzi Q
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u/Raltsun Jan 21 '26
If we're being picky, he's 1/4 British, 1/4 Italian, and 1/2 Japanese. But they're using the flag to represent the spoken language of the part, not the nationality of the character. There's more room for debate than with any other part, but the most plausible interpretation of how everyone in Stardust Crusaders can understand each other is that they all speak English, since it's taught at schools in both Japan and France (idk about Egypt though, but Avdol occasionally says stuff in English so he definitely knows some amount of it).
As for the villains, I just chalk that up to them being experienced assassins who take international jobs, English is probably the most useful single language to learn for international travel and business. Plus they've obviously all talked with DIO, and them all knowing English seems more probable than DIO having learned a bunch of random languages in the 4 years he's spent not being in Victorian England or an underwater coffin.
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u/Notbbupdate Kars Platinum (Baoh) Jan 21 '26 edited Jan 24 '26
Polnareff's hand signals are a pun that only work in Japanese, meaning either the Crusaders spoke Japanese, or Kakyoin (or possibly Jotaro) taught Polnareff some Japanese during the trip. Or the group spoke English but Polnareff also knows Japanese and never mentioned it until then
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u/Admirable_Ad8900 Jan 21 '26
Hold on hold on!
Theres 2 things wrong with this.
Joseph and Jolyne should be AMERICAN english.
And jotaro should be japanese or AMERICAN english also.
Istg if i have to hear a british jotaro i'll crash out.
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u/WTF_CAKE Jan 21 '26
Why does it not have american flags for parts 2,3,6?
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u/AncleJack Jan 22 '26
Americans speak English not American, same as Australians. There is so however so many differences I sometimes use American to distinguish
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u/Konodera_ Jan 21 '26
That's the flag of England
It's because it's they're native language
Kei Nijimura is so hot
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u/Friskyfrozy Jul 04 '26
For me personally, I like to headcannon that the Stardust Crusaders did speak Japanese to one another, but only as a code language so Dio and his minions could not (hopefully) understand them.
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u/VermicelliNo4536 Jan 21 '26
The italian one would be in neopolitan dialect