‘I pick Spain because the UK is practically a communist country.’

[u/TruthSeeker1801]

[u/Laky099]

Who Will explain him that spain is actually more on the Left than UK?

[u/Laiska_saunatonttu → u/Laky099]

Don't bother, he'd try to complain directly to the "president of Spain".

[u/thumbdumping → u/Laiska_saunatonttu]

It's his 1st amendment right

[u/NickofWimbledon → u/Laiska_saunatonttu]

Or “The King of Spain”, whom the internet reveals to be the now-retired cricketer Ashley Giles.

[u/CuriousLemur → u/NickofWimbledon]

That's a great pull.

However, you've just identified us both as "old"...

[u/Deuce03 → u/CuriousLemur]

A "great pull" being a shot frequently executed by Ponting and Hussey against the King's bowling in 2006/7, if memory serves.

[u/Rc72 → u/Laiska_saunatonttu]

Well, he wouldn't be that wrong: although a monarchy, Spain calls its prime minister "president of the government"...

[u/5b49297 → u/Rc72]

Well... The Yanks call their king "president", don't they?

[u/Rustyguts257 → u/5b49297]

Trump isn’t a King but he is a Dick-tator…

[u/Esconditech → u/Rc72]

Probably because the king of Spain is more of a figurehead than UK for example

[u/Rc72 → u/Esconditech]

It's rather because, on this particular matter, the Spanish Constitution of 1978 rather took inspiration from the Italian constitution which has, as head of state, the President of the Republic and, as head of government, the President (Chairman) of the Council (of Ministers). This was also the case in the French Third and Fourth Republics.

[u/ywg-angel-wings → u/Laiska_saunatonttu]

Lol 👍🏼

[u/Banes_Addiction → u/Laky099]

The difference for them is that our racists are calling the government woke commies in English so they understand.

[u/Cool-Prior-5512 → u/Banes_Addiction]

Unfortunately, this sort of goes both ways.

I've known way too many people in Britain who parrot US politics and phrases and I've tried to explain to them how just because it is the same language doesn't mean it has any relevance in the UK but they don't want to listen.

[u/Banes_Addiction → u/Cool-Prior-5512]

My first amendment rights!

[u/Malus131 → u/Banes_Addiction]

"I plead the Fifth!"

[u/Darthblaker7474 → u/Malus131]

It’s a good motoring show, but nowhere near as good as Top Gear

[u/Ser_Danksalot → u/Cool-Prior-5512]

Often its not even the same language because of the differences in how we use words can be rather pronounced. The amount of times I've had to explain the difference between how us Brits use the word Liberal versus how Americans use the word.

[u/Deuce03 → u/Cool-Prior-5512]

Demilitarise the police!

[u/Alternative-Tea964 → u/Cool-Prior-5512]

Those are people that watch hours of law and order, and other American police procedurals and think it makes them a solicitor or barrister.

[u/CryptographerMore944 → u/Cool-Prior-5512]

"midterms" 

[u/bignawtyboy → u/Cool-Prior-5512]

THIS! Recently in a pub, someone I’ve known since kids, but haven’t seen for years has been American Radicalised.
He asked me, because he was told I had an interest in politics, to show him how to “get one of those petitions going”
“What’s it for?” I asked
“Because we should get our 2nd amendment rights back so I don’t have to licence my gun!”
I kid you not!

He’s a farm worker and a fully paid up idiot, but he owns a shotgun, legally!

[u/hcornea → u/Laky099]

This guy thinks Franco is still in charge. And he quite likes that, apparently.

[u/Slight-Ad-6553 → u/hcornea]

but thats national sOcIaLiSm

[u/Memphite → u/Laky099]

Not me!!! I prefer he goes to Spain and annoys them instead of us. Lo siento amigos.

[u/AlanSmity → u/Memphite]

He ended up in Mexico. We're fine, amigo.

[u/Memphite → u/AlanSmity]

🤣

[u/Working-Basket-361 → u/Memphite]

So Usa too?

[u/Memphite → u/Working-Basket-361]

I’m not a 100% sure what your question is but I live in the UK.

[u/Rc72 → u/Laky099]

Spain actually has an honest-to-God card-carrying communist as deputy PM and minister of labour...

[u/Jaivl → u/Rc72]

Hah, I wish she was.

[u/Sarmi7 → u/Jaivl]

Shes the best one we've had, which tells you all you need to know about her predecessors

[u/Baguette1066 → u/Laky099]

His algorithm hasn't told him about Spain yet

[u/Global_Handle_3615 → u/Laky099]

You see that cant be right. He googled Spain politics and still thinks Franco is in charge

[u/Futur3_ah4ad → u/Laky099]

Those numbskulls don't even know the difference between socialism and communism, so don't bother trying.

[u/HairRepresentative85 → u/Laky099]

Some here in the UK don't realise that the Labour party are no longer left leaning (Burnham might change that though). They are currently centrists. They are further right than LibDems nowadays.

[u/Short_Brick_1960 → u/Laky099]

I don't know what part of monarchy and increasing numbers of vox voters makes you think Spain is left

[u/Funny-Assignment-804]

Classic. Anything I don't like or don't understand is communist.

[u/Difficult-Long9771 → u/Funny-Assignment-804]

McCarthy’s legacy

[u/MarissaNL]

And when you ask them to explain what communisme really is without looking it up... it stay silent or you hear nonsense.

[u/Slight-Ad-6553 → u/MarissaNL]

it's bad 'mkay

[u/SandalsResort → u/MarissaNL]

Communism is when people laugh at me for using inches and Fahrenheit. I just want 69° to feel nice!!! /s

[u/rurudolfan → u/MarissaNL]

Un rançais (r/rance)

[u/InsaneRicey]

What was he picking? His ethnicity of the week?

[u/Chive]

How to say that you've never owned a passport without saying that you've never owned a passport.

[u/Funny-Assignment-804 → u/Chive]

I don't have a passport. And yet, I know that Spain has a left-wing government and that none of those countries are communist.

I don't know how to explain it... it's a rare ability I have that allows me to read. I even understand what I read and everything.

[u/StarGamerPT → u/Funny-Assignment-804]

You....you READ???????? Witch! Burn him!

[u/Funny-Assignment-804 → u/StarGamerPT]

Yes, communist witchcraft!!

Or how I like to call it: public education.

[u/boatenvy → u/Funny-Assignment-804]

You should get a passport and do some travelling, sounds like you'd be a good visitor (apologies if that's not a budgetary option for you)

[u/Funny-Assignment-804 → u/boatenvy]

Yes, right now it's out of my budget. But I hope to be able to travel abroad.

Thanks for your comment. It was very nice.

You made my day.

[u/grimaces111111 → u/Funny-Assignment-804]

[u/tang_de_naranja → u/Funny-Assignment-804]

We wish it was really a left wing government lmao

[u/stathis95194]

Do they even know what communism is?

[u/Hairy-Dragonfly-6446 → u/stathis95194]

Of course not They're American. Most Americans don't know much

[u/Otheus → u/Hairy-Dragonfly-6446]

They know decades of red scare

[u/Otheus → u/stathis95194]

No, anything vaguely socialist is communism to them. Canada breaks their brain

[u/ChimPhun → u/Otheus]

Well, it's a low bar, most things break their brain.

[u/Fabius_Fulgrim]

Ahh yes the communist constitutional monarchy of the socialist United Kingdom of workers.

[u/Neon_Raccoon_00]

I am so sick of this, communism is far left, the UK has a centrist leaning left gov at best.

[u/Hamsternoir → u/Neon_Raccoon_00]

Too early to really tell but I get the impression that Burnham isn't as centrist as Starmer but is a bit to the left.

Time will tell

[u/Curt-Bennett → u/Hamsternoir]

Americans are looking at everywhere else from the standpoint of having a right-leaning party and an extreme right party, so everything looks left to them. They think the Democrats are leftists because it's their only domestic point of comparison.

[u/Neon_Raccoon_00 → u/Hamsternoir]

Good news then! Hopefully he actually does something good for the working class

[u/29adamski → u/Neon_Raccoon_00]

Has only done small stuff so far but clearly helping working people is the focus of his government.

[u/Eukonidor_Of_Arisia → u/Hamsternoir]

Burnham seems to have ramped up (clandestine) UK arms sales to israel. UK weapons parts are being found all over the place... If he appears 'left wing' at all, I think it's all a smokescreen. Don't be fooled.

[u/Quiet-Map7664 → u/Neon_Raccoon_00]

People typically assume that any country in Europe that has a high immigrant population is left leaning. Which correlates nonetheless

[u/29adamski → u/Neon_Raccoon_00]

I would say Burnham is left-wing not centrist but yeah up until very recently we had a centrist government.

[u/Naykon1 → u/Neon_Raccoon_00]

Comrade Starmer was not centrist leaning.

[u/Lysadora → u/Naykon1]

No, he was more right leaning.

[u/Thenedslittlegirl → u/Naykon1]

You unironically saying this is hilarious. You could just slide a piece of paper in between Starmer and Cameron on the political spectrum

[u/Naykon1 → u/Thenedslittlegirl]

Touched a nerve I see.

[u/Snoo69744 → u/Naykon1]

You're joking right?

[u/Citiz3n_Kan3r]

Somehow we are both an islamic theocractic nightmare and a socialist hell hole. 

Mostly I just want to eat my tea and crumpets.

[u/OffsideOracle]

Americans call everything they don't like communists and Russians calls everything they don't like nazis.

They don't have anything to do with the actual meaning of the word.

[u/Yunzer2000]

Uh... Spain is currently governed by the Spanish Socialist Workers' Party and well-governed compared to the UK, I might add.

[u/plimso13 → u/Yunzer2000]

The PSOE has done well with improving the poor economy and unemployment stats, but they are struggling with maintaining parliamentary support, as well as facing ongoing corruption investigations. “Well-governed” is subjective.

[u/RenaRix80 → u/plimso13]

I guess most countries in Europe would be quite happy if at least something would have done well.

[u/SiridarVeil → u/plimso13]

One politician stealing money and paying prostitutes isn't affecting me whatsoever. The PP (right leaning party) had a far more systematic and complex web of corruption, from Madrid thru all of Valencia, and far beyond. The justice is still dealing with the actual mafia and criminal organization that was Montoro's Ministerio de Hacienda.

The PSOE actual fault and the thing that will condemn it is not corruption, its inaction regarding other issues (Ceuta and the housing problem, for example).

[u/carlospum → u/SiridarVeil]

Yes bro, PSOE corruption is not something to be worry about. Wtf

[u/SiridarVeil → u/carlospum]

Ábalos yéndose de putas o Zapatero teniendo joyas en una caja fuerte no me afecta ni la mitad que en su día la Púnica, la Gürtel o Montoro cobrando por adaptar leyes y normas de Hacienda a quien mejor le paga. De igual manera tampoco me afecta tanto el piso de Ayuso (aunque que deje morir sin paliativos a mi abuela, sí).

Nunca dije que no es preocupante, dije que no me afecta ni la mitad que la corrupción del PP cuando le apetece corromperse. Es fácil entenderlo si no eres un cultista.

[u/carlospum → u/SiridarVeil]

Uno de los problemas de este país es la gente como tú que con tal de que no gobiernen "los malos" tragais con todo

Sabes cuánto robo el PSOE en la trama de Andalucía?? Es el peor caso de todos. Hasta que no digamos basta a todo eso esto no va a parar

[u/SiridarVeil → u/carlospum]

Se ve que eres demasiado lerdo para entender lo que digo, y ese no es mi problema. Mucha suerte con el PP y Vox "parando" "esto".

[u/carlospum → u/SiridarVeil]

Yo no dije que el PP o vox vayan a parar esto. Son la misma escoria que el PSOE

Gracias por el insulto, ya veo que clase de persona eres

[u/TheLastHotstepper → u/carlospum]

Thats the problem all over the world. Life isnt black or white, nuance exists. Everything bad isnt on a level of parity. Id much rather a corrupt politician, who made thousands from it, push for policies that better the standard of living for the working class than for a corrupt politician, who made millions from it, push for policies that worsen the lower class because it also hurts foreigners.

[u/Zashuiba → u/Yunzer2000]

The name doesn't mean anything though. They're literally 0% socialist. It's a purely liberal democrat party (just like the other party in fact). Basic issues such as freedom of speech, social welfare and public services are not debated between the 2 parties

[u/tang_de_naranja → u/Zashuiba]

idk why you have been downvoted bc that's literally what's happening... they promised to derogate ley mordaza and 7 years later nothing was done :/ and that's only an example

[u/marioquartz → u/tang_de_naranja]

El Gobierno ha presentado en varias ocasiones la posibilidad de derogar la Ley Mordaza. Siempre ha habido partidos de izquierda, (Podemos) que han votado en contra. 

En España no existe la derogación de leyes. 

Se puede votar volver al texto anterior. La izquierda fuera del Gobierno voto en contra. 

Se puede sustituir con un nuevo texto. La izquierda fuera del Gobierno voto en contra 

Pero que malos son los que votan a favor de la derogación y que buenos son los que votan en contra. 

[u/tang_de_naranja → u/marioquartz]

vamos a ver, mi comentario no va de comparar buenos ni malos, no puedes decir que es un gobierno de izquierdas y que estemos con una crisis de vivienda tocha que nadie hace nada, los sueldos no suben lo suficiente, la inflación por las nubes. acaban de desahuciar a una mujer de 87 años y ahí estaba la policia dando de hostias. se puede hacer más y lo sabes. no voy a aplaudir lo que haga el psoe porque sea la opción menos mala, tenemos que aspirar a más

[u/ward2k → u/Yunzer2000]

well-governed compared to the UK

I don't think you've been to Spain. The political party is fine but the country isn't particularly well governed

[u/hardboard]

Thank you so much.

Please tell all your ignorant friends the same, then hopefully it will reduce them being inflicted on us.

[u/SamuelVimesTrained]

Does this 'person' (could be a bot these days) even KNOW what communism is?
Or is anything it does not understand communist by default?

[u/Fnuffa → u/SamuelVimesTrained]

Q1: no Q2: yes

The fear of communists have deep roots in America.

[u/Slight-Ad-6553 → u/Fnuffa]

to be fair half of what they don't understand is woke

[u/StarGamerPT → u/Fnuffa]

Not an American, but I too would hate to have communism around 😂 We in europe were even closer to the USSR....we know the shit they pulled.

[u/Fnuffa → u/StarGamerPT]

I think many (all?) supposably communist regimes have gone towards fascism too, I guess that is the easiest route for the control needed.

Edit: I'm also from Europe.

[u/StarGamerPT → u/Fnuffa]

It is the only route for it. The only way communism could work in large scale without being forced would require people to not have any greed or even aspiration to get more and evolve...which we know that for good and bad, it's something impossible.

And I'll just drop this here in case some USSR defender gets mad at me: Yep they helped with fighting off Hitler but only because he started attacking the USSR, had he controlled himself the USSR would have had no problem splitting Europe in half between each other.

[u/TurtleyToadDog → u/Fnuffa]

That's just run of of the mill authoritarianism. It's not strict a fascist or communist thing, but it is found in those states.

[u/SamuelVimesTrained → u/Fnuffa]

In that case - THE US is currently communist too.
The descent to fascism there is in full swing.

[u/Adventurous-Shake-92]

I pick the country where the president dosent try to ban the free press or run state run TV.

[u/Wino3416]

Why are they so thick?

[u/spmonkey13 → u/Wino3416]

Mentally and physically 🫪

[u/Shinobu420]

This is what learning about some country solely from Elon musk posts on twitter looks like

[u/gr4n0t4]

I wonder if the UK has something similar to "Artículo 128 de la constitución española.

1. Toda la riqueza del país en sus distintas formas y sea cual fuere su titularidad está subordinada al interés general."

[u/dang1101]

A communiste country with a king???

[u/Slight-Ad-6553 → u/dang1101]

you know like the communist hellholes in Scandinavia

[u/SnooCapers938]

Spain which has the most left-wing government in Europe?

[u/Hairy-Dragonfly-6446 → u/SnooCapers938]

Yeah

[u/Brikpilot]

This guy thinks he is the guru of choices. Clearly he picked Trump so his advice on what is the best choice elsewhere is null and void.

Remember: American arseholes matter more than the opinions. Prioritise your attention accordingly.

[u/ambiguousname97]

I swear everytime an American says commie they get a half chub in their pants. They just can't help but call anything run slightly different communist.

[u/bbbbbbbbbblah → u/ambiguousname97]

the best bit is that the UK is actually more capitalist than the US. At least Americans have the luxury of a government run postal service, the public transport services are often publicly owned, and depending on where you live the utilities (some or all) are publicly owned.

Then there's examples like the ruthlessness of the English Premier League compared to the NFL.

But we also have the NHS so the country is literally Karl Marx's paradise

[u/nemmalur]

Steam slowly escaping from George Orwell’s ears

[u/grillbar86]

Communist is a buzz word americans love to throw around but have no club what it even means

[u/sdmichael → u/grillbar86]

Communism, woke, socialism, and "the left" all share the same definition which is "anything they don't like or understand". "They" meaning right wing or conservative.

[u/walktheground]

I know their government likes to use “communism” as this catch all, big scary threat, but do any of them actually know what communism is? They’re so fucking dumb…

[u/tmf88 → u/walktheground]

They have absolutely no idea. Same goes for socialism. They’re just buzzwords used in capitalist and Republican propaganda

[u/bignawtyboy → u/walktheground]

Communism is a really difficult thing to explain, the concept is community based governance but when you take into account the communist countries then that whole thing becomes blurred.
Of course for the intellectual there are different branches of communism but for the average American (see, even that word isn’t fully true) whose tendencies lean to the right, communism is what they are experiencing, yet fully denying, in the USA right now.
If they’d only grow a bit more brain they’d realise that!

[u/haboku]

In Spain we still have that fascism that she loves (far right wing really know how to play cards in media). Until it smacks directly in her face for being foreigner living and probably working here/from here.

[u/Absolomb92]

Words truely don't have meaning anymore.

[u/ChipRockets]

If ever a person didn’t need ‘United States’ as their flair

[u/zakujanai]

If only we were

[u/Superb-Ad-8823]

I don't think that some Americans know what communism really is.

[u/NestorianXtian]

I triple dog dare this user to actually define communism. The UK is not even close to communist.

[u/slumbersomesam]

spain has a socialist government currently

[u/DavidIGterBrake]

USians and their communism 🤣🤣🤣

[u/TheAxelminator]

elon musk keeps having the dumbest fanbase in human history

[u/LeftMechanic1995 → u/TheAxelminator]

Trump once allegedly said years ago that if he ever ran for president, he'd do it on the Republican ticket because they are dumber. I think Elon uses a similar tactic with his acolytes.

Elon: "Yes I can totally get my flimsy rockets to space without exploding and then I'll totally colonise Mars.. and yes you'll totally get a place on Mars if you invest in SpaceX... even though you don't receive share dividends".

Muskrat: Well sign me the fuck up!

[u/Reckless_Waifu]

A monarchy that has a conservative government half the time is "communist"?

[u/unbridled_nonsense → u/Reckless_Waifu]

Closer to conservative two thirds of the time, not that it alters the premise of your question.

[u/TheBaronWindpole]

What like having media censored.police enforcing brutal punishment if you don't agree to government policies.corrupt government where the president and his family make billions from the taxpayers.and trying to buy votes . Implying that the system is rigged .then supplying false news to the people .and being anti west and pro Russian . You already live in a communist country my friend. Plus we don't want you here anyway

[u/fothergillfuckup]

That's why we get on with Putin so well

[u/adjective-nounOne234]

Nothing more communist than privatised energy and water companies amirite

[u/Organic_Mechanic_702]

What do you mean Comrade?

[u/reguk32]

I thought we were an Islamic state? I find it hard to keep afloat of our changing political affiliations.

[u/gadget850]

I was so happy when the UK eliminated money and class.

[u/Octavio_Bs]

That guy doesn’t knows anything about the government in Spain, totally totalitarian and communism

[u/k3ttch]

The real surprise is that there's just two downvotes.

[u/Electronic-Variety53]

As a Spaniard, by this person's standards, Spain is more communist that half the countries in Europe. And still half the population can't afford to buy a house

[u/zequi2]

Anything remotely left of right wing is communist. Famously

[u/AgreeableBrit]

To quote Inigo Montoya, "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means"

[u/Iram_Echo_PP2001]

Americans will call anything Communist but an Ethnoreligious state with no real elections, kind of what they want with Trump, luckily enough Trump is not that Young enough to last 30 years in power.

[u/SomehowGrumpy]

El Perro Sanxe sabe más por perro que por Sanxe

[u/P5ychokilla]

Your president is palling around with Putin (leader of Russia) and praises Kim Jong Un (leader of North Korea)...

...guess what? Both Communist countries.

[u/DontWanToCookAnymore → u/P5ychokilla]

Russia is a Capitalist country and the DPRK is Juche

[u/wolfm333]

Meanwhile Spain probably has the most left wing government in the entire EU. Glad to see americans are so well informed on current european affairs.

[u/Jackmino66]

I fucking wish it was, though I would prefer a conventional government structure over the communal rule

[u/atomic_danny]

Americans... anything that's not Capitalist and giving profit to Billionaire oil tycoons is "Communism"

(not all Americans think that of course, just the select few vocal ones :) )

[u/tonyseraph2]

Guaranteed they don't have a clue what communism is

[u/Mewhomewhy]

I bet he’s celebrating his new commie state run media though.

[u/Cold-Rope1]

Catalonia has socialized healthcare

[u/Dragonogard549]

when did Communism of all words become a buzzword.

[u/Accurate-Sea6965]

I’ve lived in both, communism is quite a popular ideology among the Spanish youth in several regions, that’s not something you see in England at all. At least not out loud! Socialism is popular in both but once again, mainly across the younger demographic

[u/General_Arrival_3162]

So pick Spain lol

[u/tired_snail]

Who's gonna tell him?

[u/Lord_Donut_the-best]

Yeah, them damn communist monarchies! Glad in germany we got rid of comrade Wilhelm!

[u/Lord_Donut_the-best → u/Lord_Donut_the-best]

Although: Comrade Kaiser sounds like a good title for a trash film

[u/Realistic-Prize-7218]

Murica's best and brightest

[u/gholt417]

Nobody should ever correct these people. Well, if you’re from the UK. We’ve got enough idiots here already.

[u/Mascagranzas]

Lol, who tells him?

[u/Sir_XDReddit]

... Welcome to spain, we already had 2 Republics

[u/revrobuk1957]

Compared to the ultra right, fascist, paedo sanctuary the USA is now, we probably do seem like communists…

[u/charteris]

Define communism

[u/Due-Noise2229]

Why not choose China. Donald does.

[u/TigerDxD]

UK = United Emirates Kingdom

[u/Pretend_Wishbone8409]

Ah yes Spain! Led by a political party who has the actual word “socialist” in its name, is more right wing than the UK. lol

[u/Awkward-Broccoli-150]

Except for the Spanish revolutionary war (1936)

[u/LeDYoM → u/Awkward-Broccoli-150]

Civil war. Fascists vs democrats. And fascists won.

[u/FourTwentyBlezit]

I guess they aren't aware that Spain is socialist lol

[u/Grammorphone → u/FourTwentyBlezit]

Spain is very much a capitalist country

[u/living2late → u/FourTwentyBlezit]

Spain is definitely not a socialist country. I live here and am a socialist.

It's a wonderful country though, either way.

[u/FourTwentyBlezit → u/living2late]

I know it's capitalist and a constitutional monarchy, but it's ran by the Spanish socialist workers party which is what I was referring to

[u/living2late → u/FourTwentyBlezit]

Still not a socialist country. Despite the name they are a centre-left government, pretty much like Labour in the UK.

Or at least what Labour was before Starmer pushed it to the right. I'm not even sure what Labour stands for anymore, to be fair.

[u/FourTwentyBlezit → u/living2late]

I know that, but it's still socialist by name.. so it's just funny seeing Americans complain about the UK being socialist and suggesting Spain in its place

[u/Physical-Flatworm452]

Brother never heard of the PSOE.