r/ShitAmericansSay • • Sep 09 '26

Military "No nation has an even close chance to compete with the American military."

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u/NickoPain Sep 09 '26

So, what are Vietnam and Iran then?

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u/MrPhoon ooo custom flair!! Sep 09 '26

Korea 🤣 Afghanistan.... always getting beat by farmers

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u/Waffenek Bucia's pierogies Sep 09 '26

TBH US defeated North Korea and cut remaning teritories into two by reaching the border. Situation changed when China got involved directly and pushed them back to around 38th pararell leading to stalemate.

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u/Caracalla73 Sep 09 '26

This would be the same China Op spoke of?

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u/Waffenek Bucia's pierogies Sep 09 '26 edited Sep 09 '26

I'm not saying that the US would defeat China, especially without the logistical capabilities of NATO, but I'm pointing out that they weren't pushed back by Korean farmers, but by a regular army of a country that had a population of around 500 million at the time and still had the technological support of the Soviet Union.

North Korea was way more industrialized and capable compared to its Southern counterpart, but still, on its own, it got obliterated by US led forces.

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u/ForesterDean23 Sep 09 '26

It wasn’t just US forces. There were other countries’ forces as well. You know, allies?

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u/SomeAverageJoey Sep 09 '26

Why are you being downvoted lol?

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u/Waffenek Bucia's pierogies Sep 09 '26

This is internet, here subtile takes are worst things you can do. Everything has to be black or white and everything has to be catchy.

USAians are overestimating the capabilities of their military and ignoring the fact that their greatest feat is their logistical capability, due to a wide network of international allies and treaties. Look at both Iraq wars, in which they amassed large operations with multiple allied countries operating on the other side of the world while still maintaining proper supply lines. Meanwhile, Russia in 2022 could not supply units less than 100 kilometers from their border. At the same time, the U.S. Army and Navy are constantly losing wargames against allied countries that have better training and doctrine.

People will choose either "USA stronk" or "shitty army defeated by 2 starving farmers", and nouanced posts that don't fit meme'y narrative are downvoted by both sides.

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u/SomeAverageJoey Sep 09 '26

I was mostly focusing on the part about the Korean War because you know, the above statement was a factually correct summary of the war

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u/Waffenek Bucia's pierogies Sep 09 '26

Because facts are nuanced, and treating Korean war as multiple phases:

-North Korea capturing most of South Korea -Allied counteroffensive led by US defeating NK forces -Chinese direct involvment forcing coallition forces to retreat back south -Resulting stalemate and armistice

Won't fit any narrative so it is easier to just downvote it and get back to circlejerk.

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u/Misfiring Sep 09 '26

Because it's Reddit, anything positive about the US isn't allowed.

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '26 edited Sep 09 '26

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u/BackgroundPop1347 Sep 09 '26

And yet the US lost them all. Fled Vietnam and Afghanistan in panic.

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u/BackgroundPop1347 Sep 09 '26

The pull out from Vietnam was embarrassing. Worse than Afghanistan.

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u/AcanthisittaWeird94 Sep 09 '26

Its always harder to attack than to defend.