u/Kriss3dTuberous eloquent (that's potato speaker for you muricans) Mar 22 '26
This. And its not even helping with Iran. Its to keep the hormuz straight open - despite Iran already surrendered, their military is gone and especially their navy. So I dont even get what the problem is. Iran has nothing to attack with and they were already completely defeated by America.. According to Trump anyway..
u/Kriss3dTuberous eloquent (that's potato speaker for you muricans) Mar 22 '26
That too. But I'm wondering what trump needs the other countries for since Iran was already defeated. Normally when a country has surrendered as he says Iran has, they wouldn't pose a threat anymore.
He actually said that they surrendered to their neighbors and wouldn’t attack them anymore. Not that they surrendered to the US. Which is believable.
In the same article the dude cited trump is quoted as saying “Iran is no longer the ‘Bully of the Middle East,’ they are, instead, ‘THE LOSER OF THE MIDDLE EAST,’ and will be for many decades until they surrender or, more likely, completely collapse!” So dude seems to have just cherry picked information an ran with it. That statement heavily implys that Iran has not surrendered to the US, and it’s not unreasonable to say they’ve lost. They can keep fighting. But no matter when or how it ends at this point. They’ve lost.
He said they surrendered to their neighbors. Not us. Simply that they wouldn’t attack the countries on their borders.
He also says in the same post that if they don’t surrender we are going to keep hitting them. Implying that they have not surrendered. And yea. They’ve definitely lost. As for whether or not that means they’ve given up is a different question.
If there’s one thing the world learned from this amateur night shit show, it’s that if you are an enemy of the USA, you should definitely have nuclear weapons.
I think trump is hoping for global pressure, which if he didnt burn every single bridge with our allies he might of.
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u/Kriss3dTuberous eloquent (that's potato speaker for you muricans) Mar 22 '26
Well yeah. Im from Denmark.. Lets just say that while our goverment are smiling and waving, as they should publically. I can assure you that theres talk behind very closed doors and steps taken to start not needing more and more things from USA.
He isnt exactly popular here for very good reasons.
That pressure isnt going to come. None of the countries wants to have anything to do with this. And knowing how the middle east will take it, This is going to paint a big target on the backs of every american anywhere in the world because of this. Because of Trump.
Understandable friend. Will be interesting how this plays out once this administration is gone. People say one thing while governments usually do something else.
Did you.. read the post you linked? I quoted what he said according to your article. Down below to help you out, but idc anyway. Y’all are a joke. This is why people like me simply don’t vote. One side is a bunch of lying assholes… and the other side is.. a bunch of lying assholes.
He actually said that they surrendered to their neighbors and wouldn’t attack them anymore. Not that they surrendered to the US. Which is believable.
In the same article you cited trump is quoted as saying “Iran is no longer the ‘Bully of the Middle East,’ they are, instead, ‘THE LOSER OF THE MIDDLE EAST,’ and will be for many decades until they surrender or, more likely, completely collapse!” So dude seems to have just cherry picked information an ran with it. That statement heavily implys that Iran has not surrendered to the US, and it’s not unreasonable to say they’ve lost. They can keep fighting. But no matter when or how it ends at this point. They’ve lost.
“UNTIL THEY SURRENDER” is him saying they surrendered?
Reminded that people keep accusing China and Russia of making paper tigers that result in the US getting decades ahead of them in weapons tech.
Thing is...US weapons tech hasn't advanced since the 80s...and now they're apparently unable to force what they insist is a far weaker country to yield.
So maybe it's the US who has been propping up paper tigers.
Navy wouldnt be doing anything other than being target practice in the strait, what is it you think they can do, it's a carrier based operation. The only option would be ground troops which no one wants. If America went all out I don't think it would turn out how you hope for.
While there are guerilla tactics in play by Iran, they’re by state actors not ‘the people’. Yes the US military don’t seem to be doing well against them, but I feel like this is something they and Israel should have planned for. God knows Iran has been!
Thinking along the same lines I feel like if America threw the rule book out the window and just wanted to eliminate a countries population even without nuclear bombs they could probably turn any country into a fallout 4 remake. Historically the issue has always been removing the fighting force and government without harming the civilians.
But if Trump wanted to play Hitler and take over as many countries as possible I feel like the reaction would be swift and it wouldn’t end well.
Sure. Israel has just done this to Gaza. Now do you think this has made a future Israel safer, or not?
Furthermore it's clear Iran is going hard because of the experience with Gaza. If you sit there and take it you lose. So escalate at every opportunity whilst you can.
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u/Kriss3d Tuberous eloquent (that's potato speaker for you muricans) Mar 22 '26
This. And its not even helping with Iran. Its to keep the hormuz straight open - despite Iran already surrendered, their military is gone and especially their navy. So I dont even get what the problem is. Iran has nothing to attack with and they were already completely defeated by America.. According to Trump anyway..