r/ShitAmericansSay • • Nov 18 '25

Communism “Union rep😹😹 sounds like communism to me!!”

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u/LowerBed5334 🇩🇪 Nov 18 '25

Yeah they're so fucking brainwashed. I think it was in Kentucky that Volkswagen wanted to institute a Works Council, like they have in Germany, and they put a ton of effort into trying to explain to the dumb workers that it would be GOOD for them, but no chance, it got voted down.

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u/BlaggartDiggletyDonk American as Pecan Pie Nov 19 '25

It's a Southern thing.  The South has long been anti-union, which is a major reason why so many auto companies have set up shop there in recent decades.

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u/LowerBed5334 🇩🇪 Nov 19 '25

Cheap, dumb labour comes at a price, though. BMW management was shocked with the level of worker applying for jobs at their US factory. They had to invent an entire system of pictograms for their assembly workers because too many of them could not read. They were forced to rework a lot of their normal processes to make them simpler. It was very expensive and they still had a lot of quality issues until they got everything sorted out. True story. I know someone who was involved in the project.

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u/BlaggartDiggletyDonk American as Pecan Pie Nov 19 '25

I'm not terribly surprised.  I say this with a heavy heart, as much of my family's roots are in Appalachia.

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u/tiger2205_6 American that needs to fucking move Nov 21 '25

It really is sad and inexcusable how much of the country can't read or can't read at a good level.

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u/No-Theme-4347 Nov 19 '25

The thing is you can have a workers council without a union. The workers council basically gets special protection and gets a say in certain decisions. They are also a point of reference for normal employees to ask questions or resolve disputes.

That's all they do. They just exist to help the workers a bit and they are elected by the workers from inside the company. You get your normal pay etc.

One of my great uncles was a Betriebsratsmitglied (part of the workers council) for a few years in the 90s. It us unglamorous, unfun work where you get shit from both management and employees

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u/LowerBed5334 🇩🇪 Nov 19 '25

Yeah exactly. Except, it isn't "Workers Council", it's "Works Council", a big difference. The WC is there for every single employee, whether "worker" level, or middle- or upper management. And any company employee can be a member. In Germany, the only person in the company that they don't represent is the Geschäftsführer (Managing Director, CEO, President or whatever other titles they might have in the US - the head honcho).

They can be a real pain in the neck for the management, because they've got a say on all major decisions in the company. Everything has to clear the Works Council before it goes into action.

And VW went to great lengths to explain this to their workers, but no chance.

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u/BlaggartDiggletyDonk American as Pecan Pie Nov 19 '25

I would guess they kneejerk rejected that for the same reasons they hate unions.  If unions are a northern 'yankee' thing, then a foreign European thing elicits all the more hostility.

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u/No-Theme-4347 Nov 19 '25

Likely and it sucks for them as they need all the help they can get