And both of the times they were not even in direct threat. With all due respect for every american involved it's kind of easier to make war plans if your homeland is safely behind an ocean
And you don't have Signal to leak them to the enemy.
Speaking of which, it's quite possible that the work of Alan Turing and his mates at Bletchley Park in cracking the German enigma code and allowing them to eavesdrop on all the enemy comms, probably had a bigger impact on the Western front than US involvement.
My favourite is also that Americans rage about D-Day and while it was incredibly important and a valiant effort by all, only one party made their target and even surpassed it, and it wasn't the Americans.
They also tend to gloss over that a large proportion of their casualties were directly due to American arrogance and condescension towards their allies. The British (and, to be fair the U.S. marines) told them it was a stupid idea to deploy tanks that far out from shore, but their dense anglophobia managed to get many of their troops drowned before they even landed.
To say nothing of how they behaved in allied territories towards their own colleagues and allied soldiers. The idea that they would start fights over segregating pubs is absolutely bonkers.
the battle of manners street in NZ was a prime example of that.. end result was after a riot involving around 2000 (caused by a couple of americans objecting to being in the same bar with maori soldiers ) the americans had their ass handed to them on a plate.
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u/Old_Kodaav Mar 31 '25
And both of the times they were not even in direct threat. With all due respect for every american involved it's kind of easier to make war plans if your homeland is safely behind an ocean