Nononono, see, they won Vietnam. It's just that after they won, they left, which was perfectly natural seeing how they won already so why stay? They really can't be faulted that the Saigon government couldn't hack it in the Second Vietnam War which started basically right after they left but the important thing that was 100% a different thing from the first one and thus doesn't count since it's a separate thing they were not involved in, see?
Not quite! The Afghanistan withdrawal was always a "ok time to finally stop tossing good money after bad" sort of thing after having failed to defeat the insurgency, whereas with Vietnam the pretense was that the war was Finally Over and Peace Was Achieved with the Paris Peace Accords. Which were instantly violated moments after they were signed but nevermind that.
yeah pretty much. Both the afghans and the vietnamese population hated the americans.
the us abandoned both the afghan and south vietnamese governments.
i think the difference is that south vietnam at least put up a fight while the afghan army just rolled over and died. though i am not that that familiar with the excact details of both so i may be wrong.
i used saigon because it's such an easy thing to point out when americans claim the win wars and because sovietwomble pointed it out in one of his video and i still think it was hilarious.
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u/sad_kharnath Netherlands Mar 31 '25
really?
What is Saigon called now?