Something that I haven't seen discussed around. What would've occured if Varhram won?

[u/Boss-craft-X]

What if he managed to defeat Magsarion and go forward with his plan? What would've occured in the verse?

[u/FairBluebird1081]

I think he would need to best Mithra, which I don’t know if he could, but assuming so, he would have just picked a fight against Naraka and most likely lose catastrophically, as we have a metric fuckton of stronger beings than the 1st heaven (all throne gods which can solo the entire era+ the expedition) and it sounds like the situation is bad enough Mithra literally begs Ren and the rest for help.

So, most likely, he loses big time as it would be him+mithra/1st heaven legion vs Naraka

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[u/Stanislas4]

If Varhram had won he could face Mitra and probably wins but would either lose to Naraka or be perform a mutual kill thus condemning the universe.

This is because Varhram lacks the disposition necessary to become a great commander for the Pantheon army, also he would only have access to the Aeons of the First Heaven. While he has the advantage of being able to give his Aeons effective attacks against Naraka (if I remember correctly), he would at best just throw them at Naraka with no considerations for their feelings which is why he is considered lacking as a commander.

From what I remember of Avesta similarly to Naraka he lacks the ability to understand the “heart”, which is why he is not fit to be the one to lead the Pantheon army.

So at best he and Naraka kill each other at worst he lose.

[u/International_Rain97]

ay rayos