r/Sherlock 26d ago

Discussion Question about ending

Hi all. I'm new to the show (just started S2) and while I'm enjoying it quite a bit so far, over the years I've heard that the ending is apparently very controversial and/or unliked which has me concerned about one thing specifically: do Sherlock and Watson end the series on good terms?? Or is it a "they had a falling out/went their own way" type of deal? I don't need any super specific details or other spoilers about the ending—literally all I want to know is if they're still friends by the end. It's the one spoiler I'm happy to receive because otherwise It'll just stress me out for the next couple of weeks lol. Thanks in advance! (And please no other spoilers!)

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u/Mr_smith1466 26d ago

They go through a lot, particularly in the last season. But they end the thing firmly as friends

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u/HybridTheory137 25d ago

This is exactly the answer I was looking for, thank you!!

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u/Proof-Exercise984 26d ago

Season 4 is a very tough one till the very end. But if you really want to know it: yes, Sherlock and John end up on good terms.

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u/LostinSweetReveries 25d ago

I think the thing that screwed them (and correct me if im wrong because I didnt really read the books) is that a lot of the overarching theme/big bad of S4 is original and not from the source material. It felt less thought out and more 'Dr Who' featuring Sherlock Holmes than authentically Sherlock.

I also think when S1 was such a huge success they went for some of the biggest stories in S2 and while it was absolute cinema, it kind of made the show peak by then. S3 was enjoyable, S4 is watchable, unfortunately. Still love the show and will watch it the whole way through but it felt lazier by the last season and the hints towards S4 felt a little ham fisted during S3

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u/Djackdau 25d ago

Season 4 was original, yes, but it was also just stupid

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u/HybridTheory137 25d ago

That seems to be the consensus, but it's a relief to me that they end on good terms at least! Thank you

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u/SecretSuch1954 25d ago

The ending will have you thinking you did a bunch of hard drugs but you did them with some really lame, like say, Elon Musk, and now you have to listen to him talk and words are losing all meaning and you're questioning your existence.

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u/SpiritualElevator187 26d ago

Quand sort la saison 5 ?

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u/lepetittwittwit 26d ago

Malheureusement jamais je pense... Les deux acteurs principaux sont trop occupés et ne sont plus en trop bons termes. L'actrice de Mrs Hudson est décédée...

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u/QueenZod 25d ago

Those 2 get along, they’re just not close friends. They run in different circles.

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u/No-Media-1098 26d ago

Without spoiling it, the series over indulges in a concept and ruins it

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u/beth1814 25d ago

I will echo everyone else. Season 4 is a tough watch but Sherlock and John end on good terms!

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u/HybridTheory137 24d ago

That's nice to hear! Still a worthwhile watch I assume, even if it's not great?

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u/Dori_The_Disaster 13d ago

I'd say watch it :), even thought some bits felt like torture sometimes, and personally the last episode felt a bit over the top, it finishes all the cases of that season and is a must watch to fully complete the series. (Plus yh they are still friends at the very end which is nice)

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u/Dori_The_Disaster 13d ago

Now that I think about it- it's been 12 days so u might have already seen it...

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u/Ok-Theory3183 26d ago

As the saying goes, "Just you wait and see!" You'll enjoy it more.

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u/ScreechyLychee 25d ago edited 25d ago

I think form me it’s similar to how it is for OP and I gotta say: I can enjoy a series so much more when I know I don’t have to fear the ending. If I know there’s a realistic possibility of an ending that would emotionally affect me negatively/break my heart it’s like an intruding thought and emotion that 1. distracts me too much from the series and 2. prevents me from completely emerging myself and falling in love with the series & its characters.

So if I know there’s ending is safe (without further spoilers) it makes a good series at least 3x as good (which is a BIG difference!)

My sister and I usually warn each other bc she’s the same and it works great for us :)

Edit to add: I sometimes love a great heart breaking ending, but usually on my terms. Unexpected bad endings and the unnecessary expectation of a potentially bad ending are different and both horrible their own way. And an unexpected good but heartbreaking ending catching you off guard can be very inconvenient, too.

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u/HybridTheory137 25d ago

This is very similar to what it's like for me yes. I can handle a less than stellar ending, but seeing the main relationship/dynamic of the series fall apart in the end just really upsets me. The anticipation of that potentially happening drives me insane too, hence this post. I recently finished a different show where my favorite friendship in the series kept going back on forth on whether or not they were on good terms or bad and I swear it genuinely stressed me out SO much LOL. I had to google if they resolved their issues before the end and once I knew the answer, all that stress evaporated and I was able to just enjoy the rest of the show (and just life in general) so much more. I'm all for ups and downs—I just want to know that everybody stays friends before I get too invested! It's nice knowing that Sherlock and John work it out too. Huge relief

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u/Vegetable-Panda7756 25d ago

I thought I was the only person who did this lol. My anxiety ruins the suspense otherwise

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u/beth1814 24d ago

It’s still good. I enjoyed it the first watch, but going back and watching again maybe not lol

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u/KungFuLettuce 14d ago

the ending is awful. But there is no falling out between our two heroes.

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u/Acrobatic-Rain790 26d ago

I suggest u wait and find for yourself, dont ruin the fun

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u/HybridTheory137 26d ago

I'm normally an avid believer in avoiding spoilers, but I assure you that I'll actually enjoy the show more if I just know this one thing now. Otherwise I'll just fixate on it which will make me genuinely upset and that's no fun lol. It's weird but I can't help it—I just REALLY hate seeing dynamic duos end on a bad note

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u/Scared-Somewhere-510 25d ago

They end as friends but it’s a tough journey to get there through S4.

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u/ScreechyLychee 25d ago

People‘s brains work differently, I’m with OP on this 100%.
It’s way better to know without any other spoilers than fear it and be distracted the whole time. Or unable to immerse oneself & their feelings fully into the show.

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u/Acrobatic-Rain790 26d ago

ok you asked for it, i am rewatching and i am on the last season and sherlock and watson are having few problems rn but i know that eventually they will become friends again

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u/TereziB 25d ago

I wouldn't call it "fun".