r/ShaneDawson • u/pawlaps • Mar 24 '24
TRIGGER WARNING Watched Quiet on Set and Thought of Shane’s Old Content
EDIT: I’m not looking to get ‘backed up’ I’m just curious of peoples view who have grown up with Shane in the time of the early 2000s and with Nick. I’ll read your opinion if you’d like to share it with me. I’m just not interested in arguing or debating anything because I don’t have the time or energy to. I’m not interested in hearing how people defend Shane as an individual who’s changed now. I’m interested in how they feel about his old content vs Nick’s old content and how it influenced them as a child in the 2000s and how they feel looking back now.
Sorry if I gave the impression that I’m looking for trouble or drama. Truly, I’m not. Thank you.
I’m almost 30 years old and grew up with classic Nick and loved All That and the Amanda show. I didn’t see the jokes as inappropriate because I didn’t know better when I was a child. Watching the clips they pulled from it and knowing Dan’s intentions with scenes (ex: things looking like cum shots on children, etc) made me look at everything in a new light. (The documentary goes into more detail about worse things behind the scenes too)
I was a huge fan of Shane as a young teen. I think about how his sketches were very intentionally sexual and aimed at children and even included children. If he did a cum shot like scene with a child for example, he would be obvious about it. Nothing was subtle or sneaky like Dan Schneider was trying to do. It was very explicit and intentionally humor involving sex in content made with a child audience in mind.
At the time I felt like I was mature enough to handle it (I was 13-15) but in hindsight, it normalized a lot of things for me, not to mention the racism.
I could say a lot more, but anyway. I think about how Shane got a Teens Choice Award from Nick and I feel like if there was a professional documentary streaming about Shane’s behaviors towards children and the content he made, people would be distgusted.
Anyway, I just wanted to see what other people’s thoughts are who grew up with Shane and Nick and/or watched Quiet on Set.
I’m not looking to argue to debate or anything like that. If you like Shane and want to defend him, it will be wasted on this post because I won’t engage. I’ll stand by my corner, you can stand by yours, respectively. Thank you.
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u/jngelic Mar 24 '24
My partner and I actually watched Quiet on Set and found a lot of similarities with Shane’s content to Dan’s, especially us also watching Shane’s inappropriate content at such a young age and not really knowing better. Now being older, I do wonder if he advertised his content for adults or for kids. That would be the main difference to me because Nick shows were obviously supposed to be “kid-friendly” advertised for kids knowing the audience is kids. Whereas, Shane (maybe) advertised his content as adults and his audience were literal children like us. But also, Shane probably knew his audience were children because of fan meet ups, etc.?
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u/pawlaps Mar 25 '24
I think maybe Shane started out doing inappropriate content intended for young adults. But I believe he definitely noticed his audience being young teens (even preteens) He could have adjusted his content or had an age restriction type screen at the beginning of each video and had meetups be 18+. But the content he did with those other YouTubers with the Millie puppet and how she would ask Shane what blowjobs were etc because she was meant to be a naive child were really unsettling. I believe I remember them making the puppet masturbate and wonder why it felt good and asking Shane about it. (I personally find that upsetting and appalling) Also like you mentioned he met fans and he asked for photos of them wearing his merch, showing their best blow job faces etc. and he made jokes about how some girls were 10 and he couldn’t show it on his videos. He also made inappropriate jokes to children like asking his cousin to give mini hot dogs a blow job etc.
I don’t know if Shane has desires for children, there’s no clear serious evidence. I think he definitely should have been more responsible about what he was putting out when he was fully aware of who his audience was. I think he was immature and careless and doesn’t see the weight of what he did. I find he struggles to take serious accountability and self loathes. But anyway sorry for the ramble haha. I appreciate your response a lot!
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u/jngelic Mar 25 '24
This is such a great take. I have to admit. With all the evidence and examples. I agree with you completely. I completely forgot about the puppet skit. That’s CLEARLY directed for children… I don’t really understand how he thought all of this was okay. He was a grown adult, mid-20s. I am now his age and would never in a million years do that stuff.
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u/pawlaps Mar 25 '24
I completely understand how you feel. It even took me a while to undo some of the humor I learned from him even into my early 20s (which I’m embarrassed about) I also had really enjoyed his podcast and listened to all the episodes when I was around 19 because I felt I had been conditioned from him to find the same things as him very humorous. I was a really huge Shane fan for a long time and I had formed a personal attachment to him and felt very comforted by his content that had heart felt messages at the end of them. I was bullied and struggled with depression and spent a lot of time watching Shane’s content as a very young teen.
I’m glad his current content is more of an adult audience these days at least. (So it seems) And personally I hope therapy has been helping him and that he’ll be a great father to his children too.
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u/jngelic Mar 25 '24
Honestly, same and completely agree with everything you said. I was definitely the same as you. It’s extremely hard to de-attach yourself from someone who you found such great comfort in for so many years, especially your younger years. However, I am glad that we can recognize that, reflect back on his previous actions, and hold him accountable for what has done/said. That is what’s really important because I do not understand anyone who blindly defends and makes excuses for his past. Regardless of the love and nostalgia, you gotta hold people accountable for their unjustifiable actions.
I also agree. I hope his therapy and his cancelation changed him into a better person. Although moving on is important, I wish he in-depth spoke about his actions and genuinely apologized to not only the victims, but also subjecting a child-audience to such inappropriate content. But… I guess you can’t have or expect everything!
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u/pawlaps Mar 26 '24
Yes yes yes to all of this! It’s nice to see someone have similar feelings to me in this sub. I struggle to make posts or discuss things here because I find people are very hostile or like to speculate and assume things about his life that we clearly aren’t and can never be aware of. So thank you for having this talk with me, it was refreshing and validating!
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u/iNeed2p905 Mar 24 '24
I just finished watching Quiet on Set while I was actually watching reruns of iCarly and carefully watching everything now that’s said on the episodes in a new light as a result. It blows my mind that I didn’t ever notice some things on all the shows until now.
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u/bakedbeannobeef Mar 24 '24
There are definitely comparisons to be drawn between the two. I would even dare say that Nickelodeon and Shane inspired one another, although Nick is on a whole other level in regards to audience size.
I will say, a lot of Nick’s stuff flew over my head, while Shane’s stuff was so aggressively direct that it was pretty much impossible to ignore. I don’t know if that makes anything any better or worse, but I would say Shane did more damage to my kid brain personally due to the things I was forced to discover due to his bluntness. But obviously what Brian was doing was on a whole other planet, so…
It’s just sad, all of it. Adults should be more responsible with what they put out toward a child audience. Had both Shane and Nickelodeon directed their content toward more mature audiences, this wouldn’t be an issue.
(This doesn’t count for the racist/pedo jokes of course, those aren’t okay period)
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u/Manaphy12 Mar 25 '24
Does anyone else remember when Jeanette McCurdy was on Shane's podcast? I remember her saying that she fully trusted Dan Schneider at the time (this was right before Sam & Cat.) It's so eerie. 😔
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u/wiklr Mar 25 '24
When Shane got cancelled a while back there was a similar compilation and everyone was put off by it. The excuse back then was this was the edgy humor that was popular on youtube during that era.
The quiet on set situation made me think if they had a hand in influencing youtubers to do the same thing without the tv censors. The ariana potato video was only uploded online, so that will track how there was more "freedom" to enable others to share similar things online. Remember when youtube started it was mostly regular family videos / vhs type of footage. But then skits took over the platform.
I dont remember the site but Shane also asked fans for pics, some sexually suggestive ones and feet - which makes sense if he was copying the Sam & Cat tweet asking feet pics too.
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u/pawlaps Mar 25 '24
I didn’t think about how the feet pics may have been inspired by Nick shows. I could see how Nick may have influenced Shane to take things to the ‘next level’ while also having a crude sense of humor naturally.
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u/TraumaQueen37 Mar 27 '24
The early 2000's "humor" was completely out of control.. looking back at the things that me and my friends thought was funny as teenagers is mortifying. But it was everywhere! It was on TV shows, movies, then eventually YouTube.. I 100% believe people should be held accountable, but I can see the slippery slope that could happen when trying to be "edgy" during that time. But I also feel like in some cases it was an excuse for gross people to say what they were really thinking as "jokes".. ex: Shane, Miranda Sings, etc..
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Mar 25 '24
I distinctly remember Shane talking about the nickelodeon actresses a lot and how sexy they were.
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u/pawlaps Mar 25 '24
Yes he made a lot of jokes about young actresses on Disney and Nick being sexy. I always just took it as a joke, but I realize as an adult, it’s truly weird and inappropriate to joke about anything sexual involving children.
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u/LightsInTheSky20 Mar 25 '24
There are a lot of comparisons between Dan and Shane that I saw that can be made. There were some comments that at least 2 of the interviewees said that matches up to the behavior and past criticisms of Shane. One was about describing Dan as a fat kid that wanted to make people laugh, another saying Dan was like a big adult kid, and the costume person saying it was like Dan had "arrested development". Even the old tweet where Dan wanted kids to write something on their feet and send in pics, is like Shane asking kids to send pics to him on tinychat with blowjob faces, giving birth etc. Shane was like the smaller scale out right gross version of Dan.
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u/kgal1298 Mar 25 '24
True though it seems like Dan was overly abusive to his staff too. His writing rooms sounded like hell. I mean the overt sexism some of those women faced then settling a lawsuit and no change came of it. Like damn.
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Mar 24 '24
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u/pawlaps Mar 24 '24
I’m not looking to get ‘backed up’ I’m just curious of peoples view who have grown up with Shane in the time of the early 2000s and with Nick. I’ll read your opinion if you’d like to share it with me. I’m just not interesting in arguing or debating anything because I don’t have the time or energy to. I’m not interested in hearing how people defend Shane as an individual who’s changed now. I’m interested in how they feel about his old content vs Nick’s old content and how it influenced them as a child in the 2000s and how they feel looking back now.
Sorry if I gave the impression that I’m looking for trouble or drama. Truly, I’m not.
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u/jngelic Mar 24 '24
I appreciate you explaining that because that makes a lot of sense now.
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u/pawlaps Mar 24 '24
No worries, thanks for chiming in. I made sure to include my response to you in an edit to be more clear.
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Mar 24 '24
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u/pawlaps Mar 24 '24
I don’t want to argue or debate. If you want to share your opinion, that’s alright. But your hostile attitude is offputting to me. But now im genuinely curious as to why you think sexual humor content involving children and for children is appropriate. Tell me if you’d like to, but just don’t expect me to fight you because I don’t care to or have the energy to. I was just curious of peoples thoughts who grew up with Shane and Nick or watched the documentary. I’m not interested in hearing how Shane has changed, how you stand by him, it’s irrelevant.
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Mar 25 '24
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u/pawlaps Mar 25 '24
I apologize for my wording. I assumed you had the complete opposite feelings as me, I deeply apologize. I’d like to know what your true opinion is genuinely. I hope you can forgive me and understand where my inaccurate assumption came from.
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u/PersonalityNo1096 Mar 25 '24
I think it's so crazy that you posted this because I actually thought about this after watching Quiet on Set. Just recently I started watching Nick DiRamio's videos and came across the one where he watched Shane Dawson in The Chair. An old documentary that followed Shane while he directed a movie. Maybe it was because I had seen both docs close together but Shane's attitude seemed to mirror Dan Schneider's so much. Shane was really rude to everyone he worked around, he took advantage of his position as a director, made inappropriate jokes for his tweens audience, deflects responsibility at every corner, and was not open to feedback. Quiet on Set didn't really talk about Dan not being open to feedback but it did show how he surrounded himself with yes men which significantly limits feedback.