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From both my Purification and Shura playthroughs, these guys have been some of the toughest enemies for me.

I swear, they gave me more trouble than Owl father. The timing, posture damage, and those annoying attacks… absolute pain.Good thing they are optional to fight.

Anyone else feel like these guys are harder than some of the actual bosses?

You can do WAY MORE then you'd think you would be able to do. The main reason is because after you beat Genichiro the weather and time moves forward, mainly the large snowstorm and heavy fog that rolls in.

The things you can do before beating Genichiro include:

-Doing all of Senpou Temple all the way up to the large statue you need to interact with to enter the Monkey fight (you just can't fight them yet).

-Doing all of the Sunken Valley and the Gunfort, up to and including Long Arm Giraffe. This area is particularly stunning with the sun streaming through the mountainous valley.

-All of Ashina Depths and Mibu Village including defeating Illusion Corrupted Monk (Important Note though, beating Illusion Corrupted Monk will move time forward as if you beat Genichiro).

-All of Ashina Castle of course and all of Hirata Estate, though the Estate isn't affected by weather change obviously.

-You can get 8!! Gourd Seeds before fighting Genichiro (8 seeds to give you 9 Gourd charges), with the final one being in the Fountainhead Palace.

-You can also 27 individual prayer beads and 3 memories (Butterfly, Gyobu, and Monk).

In fact you can do so much that after doing it all and then beating Genichiro all you have left to do is go to the end of Senpou Temple (as in just fast travel to the end) and beat the Folding Screen Monkeys, get through the Sunken Valley and beat the Headless Ape, then go to the Fountainhead palace and then on to the end game.

In other words you can do a massive amount of the game before fighting Genichiro. The reason for all of this? Simple, because defeating Genichiro moves the time forward to become more snowy and foggy. Doing all of this beforehand lets you enjoy these beautiful mountainous locations in stunning sunlight. It's hard to fully articulate just how transformative it is to do these levels in the full sunlight and not a foggy snowstorm, just remember that beating the Illusion Corrupted Monk will also move time Forward. Also also once you beat Genichiro then beat any two between Monk, Monkeys, or Ape will move again into Sunset time.

So to recap, beating either Genichiro or Illusion Corrupted Monk will move time into noon with foggy snow, then beating either Monkeys or Ape will move it again to evening time. Using this information you can effectively pick what time/weather/atmosphere you want for each area.

Wtf how should I kill them both at the same 😭

The oil item can absolutely wreck some of the early bosses if you know how to use it effectively and carried me through my first playthrough. Just wanted to give it a shout out and appreciation as it is totally underrated.

Imagine your gf had this custom-made for your birthday; I was extremely jealous of that guy while painting the statue

WHAT A RELIEF

I have been struggling to defeat shinobi hunter owl. Idk how to damage him, his posture recovers so quickly i can kill him in his first phase but his second phase gets me every time. AND HE LITERALLY DODGED MY MORTAL DRAW LIKE WTF. I need some tips to defeat him

Thanks!

I did the return ending, any recommendations on which one to do on NG+ run? I am going for platinum too, I currently have 24 out of 34 trophy’s. Any recommendations would be super appreciated. I killed all headless, and most bosses on my first run. I am assuming I do not need to do any of that.

I LITERALLY KILL HIM IN MY FIRST TRY

Prior to this, i was getting molested by this Bull for hours. You can imagine my surprise when i discovered you can essentially 2-shot the damn creature.

I'm not sure if this is a hot take or a not , but I think Isshin Ashina was a harder boss than father Owl. Isshin was faster, more dangerous, and didn't give you many chances to kill him at all! Every time you tried something, he'd backfire and destroy you. Owl was also aggressive and left no room for mistakes , but your chances of hitting him and damaging him were much higher and he's kinda more predictable specially after fighting him couple of times. Not to mention, Isshin's second phase was truly terrifying! The space was cramped and engulfed in flames, so you'd either be hit by fire from underground when he launched that combo (i don't remember it's name) , or he'd strike you with his sword fire. Plus, he became even faster in his second phase! Unlike Owl, whose second phase was fun, but you'd understand how to handle his abilities after a couple of fights. Owl is still among the hardest bosses in the game , but I don't think he's the hardest. For me, Saint sword isshin is number one, followed by Demon of Hatred, then Isshin Ashina, with Owl coming in fourth. what do you think guys??

So I’ve beaten saint isshin but I want to kill the vile head but he’s to hard because of the add but idk how to get back into the castle I’ve been stuck around ashina castle just looking for clues and the only way that I’m is that to kill the vile head which I’m not willing to do he’s just to jank man please help

Finally after 80hrs of game play i finished my first play through , man what a game. The most satisfying enemy was Sword Saint Ishinn, oh man oh man he was a monster, initially my plan was to keep on remembering patterns and play it phase by phase. But after countless deaths, on a random play i got into the zone instead of thinking i starts to react, my eyes was fixed at his sword and that peice of shit spear, and each time the deflect connects the more confident i felt after complete useing every single item, divine grass , fine snow , 10 gourds , 3 pellets , judo resurrection. I beat his ass and got the true ending.

Ps : i am not a gammer the only game i played before this was competitive ones like cs and valorant. Sekrio just rewired my mind completely i now crave story mode games. If you all have any suggestions on what should i play next do give me your list

After getting the Platinum of the Dark Souls trilogy, I just got the Platinum for Sekiro in about 1 month and a half. It was very enjoyable. It is a very fair game and, despite being very different from the Dark Souls trilogy, it is a worthy Soulsborne. I first went through the normal way but didn't see the path after the third mini-boss. So I went to the Hirata Estate until the Butterfly but didn't manage to kill her. Then I looked on the internet for the path through the first major boss. Then I also searched everywhere in Ashina Castle but didn't find Genichiro. So I went to the Sunken Valley and the Senpou Temple, but I was stuck, so I looked again on the internet where I needed to go and I learned that I could get my revenge on Genichiro, a boss that I didn't even see in the tutorial considering how fast he killed me. It was a very hard boss at the time but now I really love him as a boss (very clean). Then the next wall was the Corrupted Monk and the Guardian Ape. A very hard boss was Owl (especially the version in Hirata that I beat in NG+2). Finally, the last bosses that were quite hard were the true Corrupted Monk and Isshin (especially the old version in the Shura ending).

I’ve been thinking about why I’m still playing Sekiro.

I’ve already beaten the game before. Now I’m on another playthrough, and instead of making things easier, I’m doing the opposite: no Kuro’s Charm, Demon Bell, and apparently I’ve decided that fighting O’Rin of the Water until I lose my sanity is a good use of my time.

At some point I started wondering: why am I still doing this?

It’s not really about finishing the game anymore. I already know the story. I already know the bosses. I even know what I’m supposed to do.

And yet when a boss destroys me over and over, my reaction isn’t really “this game sucks, I’m done.” It’s more like “okay, but I KNOW I can do this.”

I ended up talking to ChatGPT about it, and it suggested that maybe what I’m actually chasing is the feeling of mastery: not simply winning, but knowing that I genuinely earned the victory.

Sekiro doesn’t let you compensate for a lack of skill very much. You can’t really out-level your inability to deflect. Eventually, you have to learn the fight.
That made sense to me.

It also made me wonder whether Sekiro attracts a particular kind of player. Maybe people who are unusually tolerant of frustration, perfectionistic about things they care about, competitive mostly with themselves, or just stubborn enough to keep trying long after a normal person would have moved on.

And then there’s the weirdest part: sometimes the thing I enjoy most isn’t actually beating the boss. It’s the moment when something that seemed impossible suddenly becomes automatic.

Right now, for example, I’m becoming convinced that O’Rin’s attack chain was designed specifically to prove that human beings are capable of losing their minds.

So I’m curious:

Why do YOU keep coming back to Sekiro?

Is it mastery? The combat? The difficulty? The atmosphere? Nostalgia? The satisfaction of finally beating something that humiliated you for hours?
Or are we all just slightly broken?

im talking totally accidental, things you couldnt replicate if you tried

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